> I'm somewhat allergic to ORM, favoring thin, simple data mappers instead :) >
You are not alone: ORM, together with the idea of a "persistent state manager" is a beautifully paved road---to hell. In the prototype phase it gives the impression of an ideal solution: code looks just like it's operating on plain memory objects. What could ideally be milliseconds, ORM turns them into tenths of a second, and this doesn't get anyone worried. Then, when you have the whole project committed to ORM and start working on some really tough requirements---and only those are the ones that *truly* add value to your product, tasks that could take a tenth of a second turn into show-stopping pauses of ten seconds and more. Now, if you are using a full-stack framework like Rails, you are pretty much stuck with its ORM solution, like it or not; with Clojure's mix-and-match approach, you just find what you are more comfortable with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en