On Dec 5, 2012 6:38 PM, "Christian Sperandio" <christian.speran...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> And I find that the Clojure code is damaged by the JavaFX inheritance.
You must write  :gen-class extends to just display a window.

There are many things in JavaFX for which documentation suggests
subclassing, but it is entirely reasonable to simply instantiate and call
methods.  Keep the API docs handy; they are your friend.

Even if occasionally you run into BuilderFactory or ill-typed lambda
representations.

> And when I read documentation about bindings, I thought it was
complicated to make a simple thing (look at watch in clojure). OK, the
JavaFX bindings work but I feel writing code for writing code.

Fortunately, Clojure has good tools for writing code for writing code.

> My second bad point for JavaFX, it's about the interactive development. I
love languages like Groovy and Clojure because you can test the code in a
console (GroovyConsole or REPL). Can we do that with JavaFX?

Yes, absolutely.

> My main problem is the following: for launching of your JavaFX
application, you have to call the start method in your main.

Spawning a thread to run start is as easy as (future (.start ...)) in
clojure.  Futures are GC-rooted in Clojure, so you can forget the future if
you want.

> It blocks the current thread and the REPL waits for closing the window.

Again, the documented approach is not always best; the API provides tools
for customizing initialization.

> When I read code like callback<TableColumn<Person, String>,XXX<YYYY>>,
sorry but I'm discouraged.

JavaFX's big problem is that it doesn't use *enough* type parameters,
really.

I won't call myself a "fan" of JFX, though, because as I recall the
implementation is not yet entirely Free, though most of it is available
under GPL.  If I am wrong, though, I encourage you to explore it further.

--
Stephen Compall
If anyone in the MSA is online, you should watch this flythrough.

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