It's for a little application. It's for manage foods and their expiration date (thus, we avoid forget items in the cupboard). I thought about browser. I just wanted to chang :)
Le jeudi 6 décembre 2012 00:43:15 UTC+1, charlie a écrit : > > What is the GUI for ? I'm not sure I'm happy about it, but I think most > UI's are done in a browser now, and if you haven't checked out > clojurescriptone.com yet I'd take a look. > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Christian Sperandio < > christian...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'm one of those bearded (Lin)Unixians person who love the black screen. >> I'm closer to back-office than front-office (it's may be my (too) pragmatic >> mind). >> But sometimes, for some programs, a GUI is a good thing for users. In >> particular when the sofware is not for barbed person :) >> First, I want to give details about my GUI development experience. For >> some years now, I developed GUI with Cocoa (OS X, before IPhone and iOS >> out). Recently, I did some development in HTML5/CSS/JS (and I hope, in the >> future, I'll learn ClojureScript). >> >> Back to now, I'd like to make a GUI for a Clojure program and being in >> the JVM world, I thought I would try a new framework: JavaFX2. Below, I >> give my feeling and anyone can write remarks about it. >> >> We are living in the 2010's years and with JavaFX we find another >> framework whose the conception is inheritance spirit. The first thing you >> do, is a subclass of Application. Well, what do you do with delegation? >> Composition? I had a lot of pleasure with Cocoa because there was no >> (almost) inheritance. All your work was done by delegation. I found that >> more elegant and cleaner. As far as I like no more the >> Apple's philosophy (but it's another discussion), for this point I found >> that the Cocoa's architecture was well-thought. And I find that the Clojure >> code is damaged by the JavaFX inheritance. You must write :gen-class >> extends to just display a window. And when I read documentation about >> bindings, I thought it was complicated to make a simple thing (look at >> watch in clojure). OK, the JavaFX bindings work but I feel writing code for >> writing code. >> >> My second bad point for JavaFX, it's about the interactive development. I >> love languages like Groovy and Clojure because you can test the code in a >> console (GroovyConsole or REPL). Can we do that with JavaFX? My main >> problem is the following: for launching of your JavaFX application, you >> have to call the start method in your main. It blocks the current thread >> and the REPL waits for closing the window. While with Swing, you can create >> components on-the-fly (no start method to display your main frame) in the >> REPL. The "thing" lives and changes under your eyes. It's magic. >> >> Did I miss something ? Did I have a bad feeling too soon because the >> code's weight and difficulties? When I read code like >> callback<TableColumn<Person, String>,XXX<YYYY>>, sorry but I'm discouraged. >> Some people laugh at Clojure because of its parentheses. But in this case, >> we can talk about Java and its arrows. >> >> Finally, I think I'll turn to Swing. OK it's less pretty and hype than >> JavaFX but the fact I can play with Swing inside REPL is fun. And >> seriously, why JavaFX's developers made something so unpleasant (I think >> again this inheritance point as soon as you want to launch a simple frame). >> >> If some people work with JavaFX and think it's great, I'm ready to read >> your posts. Even if I'm a bearded person, I'm ready to reassess. Perhaps, I >> missed something. >> >> Chris >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
