I just find this puzzling, the "coding standards" emphasizes reducing dependencies. Now if you add dependencies in your boiler plate that may in fact not be used by the source code in the current name space, how can a human reader understand your dependencies by reading the top nth lines of your source file ?
This will worsen as your boiler plate expands. Why not require a utility name space (:use [my-boilerplate]) with a single public uniquely named macro (zxcv or any adjacent keys on your keyboard that you find easy to type) to get all that stuff on your behalf in the REPL ? Include this systematically and just type (zxcv) at the REPL. If you want to avoid the typing while in dev mode, add (zxcv) in the source code after the (ns) macro. It will require all the other things you need until you are done with it. No need to type it in the REPL anymore. Later on you can add the real dependencies in the ns macro. That can be the last step after your dev is done. It should sum up to a few requires with aliases. The zxcv is still available (requiring twice the same name space with the same alias has no bad effects) when you go back later at the REPL. I maintain that once you require a name space, is entirely loaded so the explicit narrowing of function used looks to me an overkill. Especially if you have an alias in your require call. There's no possible confusion with an alias and calls are can easily be searched as text strings which all IDEs support. Luc P. On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 20:44:24 +0100 Denis Labaye <denis.lab...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:02 AM, Softaddicts > <lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca>wrote: > > > How does that shrink his boilerplate ? > > > > Why such a long boilerplate ? Do you need the string library > > everywhere ? Why not drop :only ? > > > > oftentimes, I am at the REPL, and I know this particular function in > clojure.set (or clojure,io, or ...) is exactly what I need > I want it at my fingertips, I don't want to break my flow and > `require` it. > > And when creating a new namespace, I don't know in advance what other > namespaces I will need. > That's why I always paste the same boilerplate when creating a new > namespace. > > In Java land, all IDEs have shortcut to import classes at the time > it's needed, maybe that's what I need (in Emacs in my case). > > > > > > > Luc P. > > > > > > > Convert (:use [lib :only [...]]) => (:require [lib :refer > > > [...] :as ...]) > > > > > > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Denis Labaye > > > <denis.lab...@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Talking about `use` and `require`: > > > > > > > > How are you dealing with the repetition of each namespace > > "configuration"? > > > > > > > > Each time I create a new namespace I add the following > > > > boilerplate: > > > > > > > > > > > > (ns foo.bar > > > > > > > > (:use [clojure > > > > > > > > [pprint :only [pprint pp]] > > > > > > > > [repl :only [doc find-doc apropos]]] > > > > > > > > [clojure.java.javadoc :only [javadoc]] > > > > > > > > [clojure.tools.trace :only [trace deftrace > > > > trace-forms > > trace-ns untrace-ns trace-vars]]) > > > > > > > > (:require [clojure > > > > > > > > [set :as set] > > > > > > > > [string :as str] > > > > > > > > [xml :as xml]] > > > > > > > > [clojure.java > > > > > > > > [shell :as sh] > > > > > > > > [io :as io]])) > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you avoid repeating this ? A clojure macro?, IDE > > > > support?, ... ? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Softaddicts < > > lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca>wrote: > > > > > > > >> Yep but still longer to type :) we are in the process of > > > >> shrinking the code base, > > > >> nit expanding it, any bytes count :)) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Sean Corfield < > > seancorfi...@gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Softaddicts < > > > >> lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca> wrote: > > > >> > >> Removing use would force us to redefine it somehow. > > > >> > > (:use clojure.tools.trace) => (:require > > > >> > > [clojure.tools.trace > > :refer > > > >> :all) > > > >> > > > > >> > *sigh* no paredit in Gmail and I haven't had my coffee yet: > > > >> > > > > >> > (ns ... > > > >> > (:use clojure.tools.trace) => (:require > > > >> > [clojure.tools.trace > > :refer > > > >> :all]) > > > >> > ...) > > > >> > > > > >> > but I'm sure y'all knew what I meant. > > > >> > -- > > > >> > Sean A Corfield -- (904) 302-SEAN > > > >> > An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ > > > >> > World Singles, LLC. -- http://worldsingles.com/ > > > >> > > > > >> > "Perfection is the enemy of the good." > > > >> > -- Gustave Flaubert, French realist novelist (1821-1880) > > > >> > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > >> > Google Groups "Clojure" group. > > > >> > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > > >> > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be > > > >> > patient > > with > > > >> your first post. > > > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > >> > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > >> > For more options, visit this group at > > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > >> Softaddicts<lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca> sent by ibisMail from > > > >> my > > ipad! > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > >> Google Groups "Clojure" group. > > > >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > > >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be > > > >> patient > > with > > > >> your first post. > > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > > >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > > > Google Groups "Clojure" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be > > > > patient with your first post. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be > > > patient with > > your first post. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > -- > > Softaddicts<lprefonta...@softaddicts.ca> sent by ibisMail from my > > ipad! > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "Clojure" group. > > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient > > with your first post. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > > > -- Luc P. ================ The rabid Muppet -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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