On Feb 14, 9:50 pm, g1i1ch <iris.bl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems
> that to fully learn clojure, you first must know java. You can see it
> especially in the documentation which is fully java programmer
> focused. My problem is that I don't know java and I really don't have
> the time to or the desire to learn java just to learn clojure.

I'm a beginner with Clojure (started a few months ago). Before I
started I had no desire to learn Java and interop was one of the
reasons I had decided -not- to do anything with Clojure before.
Basically I avoided Java on principle.

This will sound obvious to a lot of people, but just this week I had a
real aha moment. It's awesome to be using a lisp in the Java
ecosystem. There's a Java library for just about anything and not a
half-finished library somebody hacked together for their own needs,
but an industrial-strength library that can take anything you throw at
it, and so far I don't feel like I need to know more Java to use those
libraries than you could pick up in a couple of days. Using Clojure is
like riding a 600 cc motorcyle in a city that's been closed to cars.

I'd recommend giving Java another chance.

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