Java is not a barrier of entry for Clojure for most folks - it is in fact
one of the major reasons for Clojure's success. If you're mostly
interesting in GUIs and games - some people have taken the time to provide
Clojure-y libraries for just that.

- Games, https://github.com/ztellman/penumbra
- GUI, https://github.com/daveray/seesaw

Also if Java really bugs you that much - ClojureCLR and ClojureScript might
appeal to you.

David

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:50 AM, g1i1ch <iris.bl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just wanted to put a shout out to the major clojure guys out there.
> I've tried several times to learn the language, but I can't get passed
> the normal lispy stuff to a serious program. Like a game or GUI app.
> The reason why is because of something I quickly realized. It seems
> that to fully learn clojure, you first must know java. You can see it
> especially in the documentation which is fully java programmer
> focused. My problem is that I don't know java and I really don't have
> the time to or the desire to learn java just to learn clojure.
>
> I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one, and it means there may be scores
> of people out there just waiting to learn clojure but find it an
> uphill battle. It kinda limits how far the language will spread. Just
> wanted to bring attention to it because it's a really awesome
> language. And, I really want to be able to use it, and I want it to be
> more widespread than it is. You have a Clojure for Java Programmers,
> why not a Clojure for Non-Java Programmers?
>
> Thanks for your time
>
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