On Apr 18, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Konrad Hinsen wrote:
On 18 Apr 2011, at 17:47, Laurent PETIT wrote:
The -?> and -?>> macros are currently inside "old", "soon to be
deprecated" clojure contrib.
I must confess that I don't even know what those macros do, so I
have no opinion.
However, I think the question of "what will happen to module
clojure.contrib.XXX" is of wider interest. Only very few modules/
sublibraries have made it into the "new contrib". OK, many of the
old ones (including some of mine) are experiments and probably not
used by anyone any more. But there's a lot in between: useful and
used code that for whatever reason does not satisfy the stricter
criteria (whatever they are) of "new contrib".
Concerning my own modules in old contrib, there are three that I use
myself and that I am planning to maintain, independently of where
they will end up:
- clojure.contrib.monads
- clojure.contrib.macro-utils
- clojure.contrib.generic
If nothing else is decided collectively, I'll maintain them as
private projects on Google Codes or Bitbucket.
The only criterion for migrating into new contrib is someone willing
to do the work of moving, and, subsequently, maintaining.
This processes is emphatically not about deprecating the contrib libs,
nor pushing anything out. We had to work out the kinks in the new
build/deploy method, and that was done first for:
Some brand new libs (e.g. unify, nrepl and finger trees)
Some of the most common others, as need arose and time permitted for
the core team.
We *are* deprecating the old build process and packaging, but I would
hope anyone with any interest in any of the other contrib libs would
please step up and move them over. The only ones that will be left
behind will be those that die of neglect or disinterest.
Stuart Sierra has documented the process here:
http://dev.clojure.org/display/design/How+to+Create+New+Contrib+Projects
and I'm sure will be willing to help out anyone with the desire to
move a lib.
What you should not do is wait for someone else to move your favorite
lib. We've moved the ones we have time to do, and expect the community
to do the rest, with our help.
Special thanks to Stuart Sierra and Chas Emerick, who did a ton of
work to set this up.
I hope that clarifies things,
Rich
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