> Emacs is...well....emacs. Sorry, but when I'm trying to learn a
> language, remembering what spell to cast on the keyboard to get the
> editor to run my script, was just a little too much to keep track of
> at one time.
>
>
You either love emacs or you don't.  I used to be surprised that there were
*any* lispers who don't prefer emacs, considering the wonderful things you
can do with emacs lisp, and the many other conveniences for working with
s-expressions, slime, etc.  I wonder if the mixed lineage of Clojure is the
reason why there are many Clojurers who don't prefer emacs.  My guess is
that emacs still holds a majority even in the Clojure lisp world, and almost
definitely in the Common Lisp world.

As for the OP, yes Java is very annoying.  Lein solves most of the Java
annoyances, as others have also said.  When *not* using lein, I *still* find
it very annoying to say, write a script that does the correct java classpath
incantations to get something to compile or run as a script.  Java is just
painful.

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