I was involved with Ruby and Rails in the early days. The Ruby mailing lists / 
conferences were always kind / helpful and the Rails lists / confs were always 
hit and miss. There were plenty of great Rails people, and enough jerks to 
upset anyone. 

I read this (Clojure) google group pretty frequently awhile ago, but took 
several months off. I returned a week ago and after the first day I emailed Stu 
H. And said: Is <name withheld> one of the leaders of the community now? He 
seems really abrasive.

Having been through this before I'd recommend a few things. 

- individually, 
-- reword responses from: "why would you do that" to "I prefer my solution 
because...". "that's not functional and it's ugly!" to "I believe my solution 
is more in-line with FP style" etc. The trick is to focus on what you are 
looking for (and the positives of the idea) instead of attacking someone else's 
solution. 
-- in niche communities, once you're labeled as a jerk, you're in trouble. 
People won't work with you. People won't answer your questions. And, people 
(often unfairly) assume you are wrong, simply because they don't like you. You 
can deal with this in a large (mostly anonymous) community. In a small 
community it's career limiting. 

- community
-- it might be worth coming up with a few basic rules and removing people who 
can't follow them. Obviously, this isn't an easy task, but it might be worth 
the effort. 

Also, what happened to Rich? It seems like many wasteful discussions could be 
more easily put to bed by his response instead of the current "here's a video 
of Rich from a year ago" or "here's a link to something Rich wrote in the past"

Or, maybe I'm oversensitive and things are fine. 

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