On 21 November 2010 20:55, Ken Wesson <kwess...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Daniel Kersten <dkers...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 21 November 2010 19:01, Ken Wesson <kwess...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Tim Visher <tim.vis...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Glen Stampoultzis <gst...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Also, I think the Clojure logo is copyrighted so permission might need to >>>>> be obtained to reuse it. >>>> >>>> I think you're right. Any thoughts from anyone who has the right to >>>> say so as to whether or not the logo would be ok to use? >>> >>> Are you sure it's not simply trademarked? It's not infringing to use a >>> trademark as long as you're using it to refer to the real McCoy and >>> not implying the trademark holder endorses your product. Third party >>> addons often use trademarks in their advertising: "This >>> baldness-resistant tire works with all 1997-and-later GM car and light >>> truck models", etc. As long as they don't claim (and the trademark >>> isn't itself) some sort of seal of approval from GM, this is legal. >>> (Of course it's also legal if they actually *have* GM's seal of >>> approval.) >> >> I asked Rich about this and he does NOT allow the use of the Clojure >> logo or a logo derived from it for anything other than referring to >> Clojure the language. While I'm a little disappointed by this, I can >> understand and appreciate his wishes. Here is what he said: > > It looks to me like it is referring to Clojure the language; > specifically, specifying what language the games are implemented in. > > Perhaps ask Rich for clarification here?
I don't think it counts as referring to the language. 1) he said that the logo should be used intact. The Clojure Games logo is, however, a modified derived version. 2) The logo refers to the website - game development in Clojure - not to Clojure the language itself. 3) He specifically stated that the Clojure logo cannot be used to promote something else. While my intention is to use the Clojure Games wiki (and therefore, by extension, logo) to promote Clojure the language, as opposed to using Clojure to promote the site, I think the distinction is too fuzzy to be worth arguing over. But.. that leads me to another question. Rich stated that "You can't use the Clojure logo to promote something else". Does this mean one cannot display the Clojure logo (unmodified) on a website? The use case would be to show visitors that the site is about Clojure, but it could also be seen as using the logo to promote the site. Perhaps there should be separate logos especially for this purpose? Eg, "Powered by Clojure" and so on? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your > first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en