Mike, I mean this is just one example to prove your ideas, not to
disprove.

On Oct 29, 4:26 am, Mike Meyer <mwm-keyword-googlegroups.
620...@mired.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:12:39 -0700 (PDT)
>
> andrei <andrei.zhabin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'll try to extend Mike's answer by one more example. Consider `and`
> > Lisp macro. It is not a function, because it must evaluate it's
> > arguments lazily, and using macros is the only way to do it.
>
> Actually, this is the first case, and a classic example of it: you
> need to control how many times the arguments are evaluated.
>
> > But try
> > to apply `and` to the list of values (I know, that it's a job for a
> > function `every?`, but how will you implement this function itself?):
>
> > (apply and (list true true false true))   ==> error
>
> And this is the issue of not being able to pass macros to higher order
> functions.
>
> > You cannot do it, since and is not a function. So, you need to use
> > wrapper around `and`:
>
> > (reduce #(and %1 %2) (list true true false true))  ==> false
>
> > And this is still not the perfect solution, since it is not lazy.
>
> > So you can see both advantages and disadvantages of using macros.
>
> Which is why you only want to use them when you have to. If you don't
> need the advantages, why put up with the disadvantages?
>
>      <mike
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