> On Aug 24, 6:44 am, Stuart Halloway <stuart.hallo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Clojure 1.3's performance improvements will significantly impact perf on >> some of the benchmarks. If you are trying these out, please try them on both >> 1.2 and 1.3. > > > Has Clojure 1.3 been released? >
No, but since the num/prim/equiv work specifically targets performance, we want to collect people's experiences comparing 1.2 and 1.3. This is totally separate from the benchmark submission process and for our own information. >> Also: the benchmarks are totally a numbers game: throw idioms and >> readability out the window. Clojure 1.3 should be able to match Java >> performance if you basically write Java-in-Clojure. On Clojure 1.2 you will >> have to do stranger things to get there. > > If you choose to throw idioms and readability out the window then > don't be surprised at the comments that will be made about Clojure. Let me reduce the stridency of my previous statement: "throwing things out the window" is too strong. Benchmarks are a numbers contest, not a beauty contest. But, there's no saying the resulting programs will be ugly (or even non-idiomatic). Try things. Measure. It is simply the case that some idiomatic code (i.e. numeric code with no hints in the body) is faster in master/1.3 than in 1.2, and that some benchmark-useful things (fns taking/returning primitives) are available only post 1.2. > If you have to "do stranger things to get there" with Clojure 1.2 then > doesn't that simply suggest Clojure 1.2 performance doesn't match Java > performance? If I had wanted to suggest that, I would have said "you can't get there". With Clojure 1.2, you can get fast programs easily, or screaming-fast programs with effort. Some of the work in Clojure 1.3 reduces that effort. Stu -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
