> > It can (but its startup is slow, currently). May I ask you why you > wouldn't want to use it? > > One reason is that from what little I know about ABCL it seems more straightforward working with Java libraries in Clojure, but also there is a huge amount of enthusiasm and energy going into Clojure, whereas with ABCL the developer is more on their own, with less eyes on the code, smaller community of users, etc. That and I enjoy lots of other things about Clojure, and want to use it, so playing with two JVM Lisps seems a little redundant and it becomes an either/or proposition for me. But I think I would use it if there was something written common lisp thing that I wanted to integrate into some other JVM-based thing, why not? I haven't had that experience but it seems like it could happen.
> The nudging of paradigm/idiom makes many things easier in Common > Lisp. > > That depends on a lot of things and it's very personal. Common Lisp is > not automatically easier than Clojure for everyone. > > I agree with you on this actually, I was kind of playing devil's advocate to try to think of arguments for both sides... > I use Common Lisp because that's the Lisp I know. I'm interested in > Clojure because it has put some nice ideas on the table, but currently > I see no reason to use it outside heavily parallelism-oriented > applications, especially given that ABCL is there and it offers a nice > combination of CL with Java libraries. OTOH, I think that for the > average Java developer Clojure is probably friendlier. > > Concurrency is not very developed at all in Common Lisp, which could be a major point against it going forward, but I'm sure people will remedy that, as Lisp is always a good laboratory for adding new things to the language as libraries etc. Of course in the case of Clojure the interesting new ideas didn't come from CL, though many good old ideas did. CL people should probably study and consider Clojure's innovations in this case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
