> On 2010-06-24, at 12:27, Daniel Gagnon <redalas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't use Clojure for web development and I thought sharing why could be
> useful too.
>
> For web development, my favourite tool is Django. It comes as a fullstack
> framework which means I have everything I need out of the box. Templates,
> caching, ORM, a kick-ass autogenerated admin section, cross-domain request
> forgery protection etc. and the documentation is really top notch.
> I'd rather have Clojure than Python but all the goodness that Django
> provides is such a time saver that I feel I'd lose too much time with
> Clojure.
> If I had a full-stack, well-documented clojure framework, I'd jump to that.

Ditto.  Django's admin tool is something I haven't seen elsewhere, and
it saves me gobs of time.  I can't imagine switching to a framework
that doesn't have that.  But hypothetically, if Clojure did have
something like that, I'd consider switching.

Another factor to me is the reality of webhosting.  There are a number
of webhosting services (e.g., webfaction) that make it super-easy to
get Django, turbogears, cherrypy, rails, etc. up and running with
one-click installers and very detailed tutorials.  On the other hand,
Java-based servers usually require much more knowledge to deploy, and
usually require more memory than the cheapest plans offer.  I'd
probably be unlikely to switch to Clojure for webhosting without
detailed instructions on how to deploy on a well-known, inexpensive
hosting service (like webfaction).

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