On 19 Dec 2009, at 13:50, Stefan Kamphausen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On 18 Dez., 20:07, Martin Coxall <pseudo.m...@me.com> wrote:
>> One of the things that always puts people off of Lisp, as we all know, are 
>> the parentheses.
> 
> one of the things that always put Lispers off is this same question.
> 
> I have three arguments to make.  Love, reason and trust.
> 
> * Love. Parentheses are an advantage, you will learn to love them if
> you start some serious hacking.

I've seriously hacked in many languages, and have come to rely on the presence 
of Syntax. If Clojure wants me to seriously believe that syntax is overrated, 
it had better had a bloody go argument.

> * Reason. They could have been taken away in more than 50 years of
> history.  Guess what, they are still there.

Guess what? NOBODY uses Lisp. Because of those parens.

>  If I came to lisp as a
> newbie, I would think that there must be some reason.
> * Trust. Just trust all the people telling you over and over again for
> ages, just trust all the fine software engineers who kept them in
> place for a very long time.

I trust the many, many more people that have rejected Lisp for its hostile 
syntax and delusions of importance than the statistically insignificant 
minority who have actually stuck with it.

Martin

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