2009/4/16 Rich Hickey <richhic...@gmail.com>:
> What does 1.0 mean to you?

I just wanted to give some thoughts on what I think are the main
points coming from this discussion.  It seems like most agree that
"Clojure the language" is ready for a 1.0 release (and all that comes
with it).  The main issues are A) choice of VCS  and B) the state of
clojure-contrib.  Here's my thoughts on both:

A) VCS

Python has just changed from Subversion to Hg (there is a great PEP
article that details reasons for doing so here:
http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0374/).  They did this because they
had a need to and at the moment Clojure doesn't have this need
(because there is only one person doing commits!).  While it seems
pointless changing technology for the sake of it, I also think - if
it's an inevitable change in the future - why not just do it now?
Rich - is changing VCS something you would consider at this stage?

B) clojure-contrib

For me, the purpose of clojure-contrib is a little confusing.  Is it
the Clojure standard library? well a lot of "standard" libraries are
not in clojure-contrib so I think the answer is no.  Is it a special
holder repos for code that might someday be moved up into the core
language?  Well, that's what I thought it was for but there is
currently stuff in there that will never be in the core language IMO.
I think we need to decide what clojure-contrib is before a 1.0 release
(or maybe it's already very clear and I have just missed something!).

In general, I think there should be only two "things" - the core
language and a set of libraries.  Whether the "libraries" are managed
CPAN-style or whether they are delivered as part of a standard library
(like with Python) I don't know at this point - but having a "special
third place" for libraries that may or may not go into core seems
unnecessary to me.

Paul.
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