Hi! Thanks for mentioning Noj. I'd be glad to discuss it if you have any questions or ideas.
Basically, it is collecting a stack of libraries with documentation and integration tests. We approach it by generating tests from documentation. This way, we verify the docs are correct (and also enjoy a way to write some kind of literate tests). https://scicloj.github.io/clay/#test-generation On Friday 8 November 2024 at 15:16:55 UTC+2 aditya....@gmail.com wrote: > Okay, TIL: noj! https://scicloj.github.io/noj/ > > They appear to be doing this very thing, but for the data + science > ecosystem! > > I wonder if the web ecosystem can steal their playbook. > > On Thursday, October 31, 2024 at 11:47:09 PM UTC+5:30 aditya....@gmail.com > wrote: > >> X-linking to some chatter over at r/Clojure, where I X-posted this email. >> >> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/1gfjkiy/a_web_stack_special_interest_group/ >> >> On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 6:50:40 PM UTC+5:30 Fabio Dias Francisco >> wrote: >> >>> I know what you mean, in terms of web framework, idk, but I had to go >>> just that route and build myself my own data processing framework. There >>> was nothing for that purpose that was truly native, so I used my knowledge >>> of many frameworks like that, and built my own. >>> >>> On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 9:47:03 AM UTC+1 aditya....@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, thoughts about the Clojurish web stack have been bouncing around >>>> in my head for a while now. In recent months, I've noticed an uptick in >>>> conversations about the same. Maybe it's recency bias. Maybe not. The >>>> "boring business web app" is where the money is, after all. >>>> >>>> I wonder if people would like to put heads together to come up with >>>> *something* general-purpose that helps people understand + construct + >>>> apply web things built by community members over the years. >>>> >>>> Personally, I'm not convinced that a One True Framework is the >>>> solution. However there might be opportunity to out-framework all the >>>> framework-heavy communities by making a way to construct one's own >>>> framework. >>>> >>>> The "constructor" might spit out a "standard recipe" that could be: >>>> "Ring + Compojure" or "Ring + Reitit" or "Kit" or "Duct" or "Sitefox" or >>>> "Donut" or "Pedestal" if the user feeds in well-specified requirements >>>> that >>>> match one or more of said framework/library collection. Or, it might run >>>> us >>>> through a decision tree to incrementally expand requirements into a >>>> project >>>> on disk (a clj-new template, but created incrementally). >>>> >>>> AND, as m'colleague Kapil insists (and I agree) it should be a "full >>>> system" system... have us covered from parts assembly to production >>>> deployments. >>>> >>>> /Explanations/ would be a key feature of such a constructor; Why this >>>> and not that? How to wire X and Y together? What are some example use >>>> cases? The explanations would be sourced from source repos. >>>> >>>> Basically, this thing would respect and support the diversity and >>>> inventiveness of the Clojure web ecosystem /while making it accessible/ to >>>> the masses. The innovation is distributed, but the composition is >>>> centralised. This sort of thing is definitely in userspace and not >>>> language >>>> maintainerspace. IMHO, SciCloj is a great example of a special interest >>>> group that's doing yeoman service. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure if I'm making any sense, but I'm sure smarter people that >>>> I have struggled enough to have had ideas of their own and if they come >>>> together, they might conjure up a very creative solution. What I *am* >>>> confident about, is that this is a *complicated* task, but not a >>>> complex one. >>>> >>>> Anyway, I just wanted to put this out into the clojureverse and see >>>> what happens. >>>> >>>> May The Source be with us, >>>> - Adi >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/clojure/a72497ad-7641-4b07-a90d-cca5943fcdf0n%40googlegroups.com.
