X-linking to some chatter over at r/Clojure, where I X-posted this email.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Clojure/comments/1gfjkiy/a_web_stack_special_interest_group/
 

On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 6:50:40 PM UTC+5:30 Fabio Dias Francisco 
wrote:

> I know what you mean, in terms of web framework, idk, but I had to go just 
> that route and build myself my own data processing framework. There was 
> nothing for that purpose that was truly native, so I used my knowledge of 
> many frameworks like that, and built my own.
>
> On Thursday, October 24, 2024 at 9:47:03 AM UTC+1 aditya....@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hello, thoughts about the Clojurish web stack have been bouncing around 
>> in my head for a while now. In recent months, I've noticed an uptick in 
>> conversations about the same. Maybe it's recency bias. Maybe not. The 
>> "boring business web app" is where the money is, after all.
>>
>> I wonder if people would like to put heads together to come up with 
>> *something* general-purpose that helps people understand + construct + 
>> apply web things built by community members over the years.
>>
>> Personally, I'm not convinced that a One True Framework is the solution. 
>> However there might be opportunity to out-framework all the framework-heavy 
>> communities by making a way to construct one's own framework.
>>
>> The "constructor" might spit out a "standard recipe" that could be: "Ring 
>> + Compojure" or "Ring + Reitit" or "Kit" or "Duct" or "Sitefox" or "Donut" 
>> or "Pedestal" if the user feeds in well-specified requirements that match 
>> one or more of said framework/library collection. Or, it might run us 
>> through a decision tree to incrementally expand requirements into a project 
>> on disk (a clj-new template, but created incrementally).
>>
>> AND, as m'colleague Kapil insists (and I agree) it should be a "full 
>> system" system... have us covered from parts assembly to production 
>> deployments.
>>
>> /Explanations/ would be a key feature of such a constructor; Why this and 
>> not that? How to wire X and Y together? What are some example use cases? 
>> The explanations would be sourced from source repos.
>>
>> Basically, this thing would respect and support the diversity and 
>> inventiveness of the Clojure web ecosystem /while making it accessible/ to 
>> the masses. The innovation is distributed, but the composition is 
>> centralised. This sort of thing is definitely in userspace and not language 
>> maintainerspace. IMHO, SciCloj is a great example of a special interest 
>> group that's doing yeoman service.
>>
>> I'm not sure if I'm making any sense, but I'm sure smarter people that I 
>> have struggled enough to have had ideas of their own and if they come 
>> together, they might conjure up a very creative solution. What I *am* 
>> confident about, is that this is a *complicated* task, but not a complex 
>> one.
>>
>> Anyway, I just wanted to put this out into the clojureverse and see what 
>> happens.
>>
>> May The Source be with us,
>> - Adi
>>
>

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