I'm a massive fan of integrant on which duct is based. In my mind it takes Stuart Sierrra's component to its logical conclusion, which is essentially treating the system as EDN configuration. I think most moderate/large component projects tend to want to convert systems into config. Essentially integrant is what you get when you decide to create component but config first. Unlike mount, I think it is much more cleanly decomplected... i.e no problematic singletons.
In many ways I wish duct wasn't a web project at all, and was just a generic module system; a thin layer on integrant, for configuring components, and that the web framework was a separate project of duct components altogether. When you look at it closely though, you realise it pretty much *is* this; it's essentially just a module system with a web framework as an exemplar. However, there are perhaps one or two places where this isn't entirely true. Duct modules can be a bit confusing, and are I think a litlte too powerful; but overall I'd recomend it. R. On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 22:07, Nathan Fisher <nfis...@junctionbox.ca> wrote: > Duct looks interesting. > > I found luminous useful for when I first started with web dev in clojure > but started running against its project layout. > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 15:17, Rick Moynihan <rick.moyni...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I really quite like weavejester's duct, because it's essentially a >> familiar / standard ring app, but with integrant based configuration >> modules, and sensible defaults. It's not perfect though, e.g. ataraxy is >> somewhat under-developed, so I'd look at swapping it out for bidi or >> something more mature. >> >> https://github.com/duct-framework/duct >> >> I've built a fair few luminus apps over the years and find it hard to >> love because of mount; and I strongly feel the templates default layout is >> organised in the wrong way. It's hard to argue that it's not well >> documented, and quick to start with though, and it's pretty easy to use >> integrant or component and delete the src directory and pick a more >> sensible layout (I recomend structuring by feature/route, rather than by >> the incidental complexity of a webapp). >> >> Ultimately all the main options mentioned work quite well, so it depends >> on what you need and like etc. You might also consider backing it with >> lacinia as a graphql backend. lacinia is pretty neat. >> >> >> R. >> >> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 10:27, Tom Locke <t...@tomlocke.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm a reasonably experienced ClojureScript developer, finally starting >>> to think about the server side of a web app I've been working on for some >>> time. I was wondering if anyone could offer some pointers for libraries >>> worth looking at. What would you be building on top of if you were starting >>> a web app in 2018? >>> >>> It's a single page app. I've already committed to Reagent on the client. >>> Will very likely go with Dataomic as the DB. The rest is open for now. >>> >>> I realise there is no "right answer" to such a question. All I'm after >>> here is to take the pulse of the community - "take a look at so-and-so", >>> "such and such is becoming a de-facto standard", "a few people got burned >>> with thingumy"... >>> >>> I think there are two distinct sub-questions here. First off one is >>> going to need a general server-side library e.g. Luminus (more a collection >>> of libraries), and then there is the much bigger question of keeping data >>> in sync across multiple clients/servers. Here we get into the vast topic of >>> distributed systems, full of deep, open questions, but I'm hoping for >>> advice for the working programmer : ) >>> >>> Of particular interest would be whether people feel any of the more >>> ambitious libraries (e.g. Replikative) are worth relying on for a serious >>> project, or are people generally still rolling their own, RPC style. >>> >>> Thanks very much, in advance! >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >>> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >>> your first post. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Clojure" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- > - sent from my mobile > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Clojure" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. 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