On Tue, Jul 17, 2018, 2:49 PM James Reeves <ja...@booleanknot.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 19:52, Christian Seberino <cseber...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> By the time a Clojure beginner is doing the kind of hardcore concurrent
>> applications that Clojure is great at, he/she will know how to use a
>> profiler.  At the point,  they'll be ready (and motivated!) to learn about
>> the nuances of conj and friends.
>>
>
> I think this is approaching Clojure from the wrong direction. If I was
> teaching Clojure, I'd build the lessons around the data structures first.
>

That is a legit approach, but I think it misses the mark.

Q: is a clojure map a datum or a function?

A: Yes!

>
> My opinion is that many languages take a "code first" approach to language
> design, whereas Clojure takes a "data first" approach
>

Ymmv, but that's not how I think of it. Clojure is function first to me -
but data are functions and vice-versa. That's the beauty of it.

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