I think good arguments have been made for "doto," but I must say I
prefer "with" slightly more.

FWIW, Groovy calls it "with."

http://javajeff.blogspot.com/2008/11/getting-groovy-with-with.html

The great thing about Clojure is that if this really bothered me I
could easily take matters into my own hands.

(defmacro with [x & forms] `(doto ~x ~...@forms))

Clojure rocks!

On Mar 6, 7:36 pm, "Dimiter \"malkia\" Stanev" <mal...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks for the explanation guys!
>
> Having learned other languages, sometimes makes you wanna have the
> MEMORY UNDO FEATURE!
>
> On Mar 6, 3:37 pm, Meikel Brandmeyer <m...@kotka.de> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Am 07.03.2009 um 00:23 schrieb Laurent PETIT:
>
> > > I'm not sure about this, but I think doto is named after the  
> > > convention that a lot of side effecting functions/macros/special  
> > > forms follow : share the "do" prefix if the name implies that there  
> > > will be side effects.
>
> > > And indeed, if you use doto with more than one following expression,  
> > > then this list of expression will generate side effects (mutating  
> > > the target object, at a minimum).
>
> > I think "doto" is actually a good name. In contrast
> > to ->, which uses the return value of the expressions
> > doto always calls the given functions or methods
> > using the initial thing. So it "does" the function
> > calls "to" the thing.
>
> > Together with the points Laurent mentioned
> > about the do-prefix indicating side-effects and
> > the slightly different notion of the with-something
> > blocks, I think doto is just good enough a name.
>
> > Just, my 2¢ and YMMV.
>
> > Sincerely
> > Meikel
>
> >  smime.p7s
> > 5KViewDownload
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