David,
You have a great idea here with porting clojure to the CLR. The .NET
shops are just a popular as Java shops, and something like this could
go a long way to improving software written by a lot of people.  Your
initiative and hard work are to be commended.

How do you plan on solving the library problem?  As you mentioned,
there are several discrepancies between .NET and Java libraries.
Also, there will be applications written for a certain library that
might only be available in one of the platforms.  I know I have
several .JARs that work with legacy applications ( like SAP &
Oracle :) ) that I need to use.  If some else needs to maintain them,
I wouldn't want them to accidently try to run it on the wrong
platform.  If it can go wrong...

Of course, this is a problem open source systems have had for a while,
so it can be solved (apt,ASDF,rpm,rubygems...).  It'll just take some
work.

Good work overall, I'm looking forward to what you come up with.

On Feb 16, 7:17 pm, dmiller <dmiller2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 16, 5:33 pm, Chouser <chou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:43 PM, dmiller <dmiller2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't know if you've looked at ClojureScript at all, but it's a
> > similar if noticeably less ambitious project to compile Clojure code to
> > JavaScript.  It's in clojure-contrib already, but in
> > trunk/clojurescript instead of trunk/src.  My reasons for this were
> > (1) I wasn't quite sure how to lay out the directory structure and
> > didn't want to mess up anyone else, and (2) it doesn't work with
> > Clojure trunk but instead requires a patch and rebuild of Clojure
> > itself.  This patch is stored right there in contrib as well.
>
> I have looked briefly at ClojureScript.
>
> Placement: I'm guessing a parallel off-trunk placement.  This code is
> completely independent of Clojure/JVM, except for the bootstrap *.clj
> files.  I have those included in the project, so I'm not broken by
> Clojure/JVM changes.
>
> Also, this code is not set up for casual play. You need to be in
> Visual Studio, download the DLR, connect Tab A to Slot B, etc.  I'm
> thinking it should not be in trunk/src by the criteria you cite.
>
> > This is the majority of what the ClojureScript patch changes -- moving
> > explicit uses of non-Clojure Java class names out of .clj files and
> > into clojure.lang.RT (or other appropriate Clojure classes) so that
> > the .clj can be loaded as-is.  RT and Numbers have to be ported by
> > hand anyway, so it's not significantly worse on that end.
>
> > I'd be very interested to compare notes and see if our needs have a
> > common solution.
>
> I need to make the same kinds of changes to the *.clj files.  This has
> not been automated yet, so being in synch is a matter of hand-
> editing.
>
> We most definitely need to compare notes.
>
> > Sounds great!  But there's one very important question you didn't
> > address.  What are you going to call it?  :-)
>
> > Seriously, though, since it seems likely that a majority of code
> > written to run on your port will not work on Clojure/JVM, because of
> > the runtime libs available (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's
> > important for a body of code to be able to clearly declare where it's
> > supposed to work.  A name that is used consistently can help, I would
> > think.
>
> This is 100% C#/.NET.
>
> I'm up for suggestions on the name.  The obvious ones:
>
>  - Clojure.net
>  - ClojureCLR
>  - IronClojure (paralleling IronPython/IronRuby, unless MS has Iron
> trademarked.)
>  - CLjR  (too cute)
>
> Perhaps Rich will have a preference.  He'll have to live with it
> longer than anyone and has branding/confusion issues to keep in mind.
>
> -- David
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