Hi there,

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, Cody Allen wrote:

... frustrated, have spent days with a broken clamav nothing seems
to work to download the db. ...

You could at least have subscribed to the announcements list.  This is
from two months ago and is especially relevant to you:

https://blog.clamav.net/2021/09/changes-to-clamav-end-of-life-policy.html

See also

https://blog.clamav.net/2020/07/freshclam-cdiffs-effect-on-bandwidth.html
https://blog.clamav.net/2021/04/clamav-01032-security-patch-release.html
https://blog.clamav.net/2021/11/clamav-01034-and-01041-patch-releases.html

If you'd read these you'd have been warned well in advance and there'd
have been no need to grumble on this list that something which you get
for free (and which is apparently rather important to you) has stopped
working because you didn't bother to maintain it properly.

its frustrating that we're blaming network connectivity instead of
that its too old ...

Your interpretation of

WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED!
WARNING: Local version: 0.101.2 Recommended version: 0.103.4
DON'T PANIC! Read https://www.clamav.net/documents/upgrading-clamav

differs from mine.

Please also look at

https://www.debian.org/News/2020/20200709

which tells you that long-term support for Debian 8 (Jessie) ended
more than a year ago.  There is little excuse for running Debian 8
sixteen months after its end of life.  If you absolutely must run it,
then at least have the good grace to understand the implications and
for heaven's sake take this stuff seriously.  If you don't, you're a
problem for the rest of us just waiting to happen.

--

73,
Ged.

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