Wow guys I can't imagine I would have induced such a debate! :)

Il 22/gen/2017 00:27, "Joel Esler (jesler)" <jes...@cisco.com> ha scritto:

> This open source, free, project is made up of its community.  While we
> provide most of the detection and underlying systems that support the
> project and community, the ton of community based signatures we ingest and
> publish are the real help.
>
> Obviously you are unhappy and have been unhappy with the state of the
> project for some time.  Every email you've recently written has just been
> mean spirited and not adding to detection or helping people participate in
> the project.  Consistently being negative without advancing the state of
> the project is not constructive.
>
> Please understand that we all want a constructive community and largely
> it's made up of people like that.   But the amount of offlist email I
> receive about your communication makes it quite obvious that I am not the
> only one who realizes you are unhappy here.
>
> Please participate in a positive manner with providing detection to
> others, helping others with their installs, helping with development, etc.
> This is a free project, so I can't offer you a refund.
>
> --
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 21, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Groach <groachmail-stopspammin...@yahoo.com
> <mailto:groachmail-stopspammin...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> On 21/01/2017 18:44, Joel Esler (jesler) wrote:
> If you are so unhappy, why are you on the list?
>
> Please remain constructive and help out the community.
>
> --
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> He asked:
>
> " I just wanted to ask you whether I can be sure, or should worry; .... I
> would like to be sure that that was actually a false positive (or in which
> percentage it might be)."
>
> And I answered him with my opinion:
>
> (Of his original file recently now being detected):
>
> 1,  It was a windows installation CD
> 2,  Its a file nearly 20 years old
> 3,  Clam signatures couldnt detect water in an ocean.  (I would be very
> surprised if it ever detects a real threat for you).
>
>
> All reasonable and FACTUAL for a determination to conclude that he would
> be safe. That means CONSTRUCTIVE in my view.   At what point does it say I
> am unhappy?  I am VERY happy with Clam with my additional use of effective
> 3rd party signatures (Sane Security).
>
> Why remain on the list?
>
> To be HELPful.  if I can giving people the opportunity of decisions based
> on other people's (my) opinions and experiences so that that may come to
> conclusion of their own once weighing up everything that they are advised,
> then I will.  After all, isnt that what a PUBLIC mailing list where people
> ask questions and advice to the public is about?
>
> Why waste your time asking me these things and soiling the thread with
> irrelevant nonsense?  Evidently you dont like some of the disparaging
> things I say about the effectiveness of ClamAv signatures - so do something
> about the (ineffective) quality of the poor signatures and not about the
> people (plural!) mentioning it.
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