On Apr 16, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote:

The sysadmins could have done this by turning off freshclam...... and
saved themselves from having to deal with the upgrade.....

Who is the sysadmin of an unmanaged box?

The person who setup it up or the manager that decided that a single visit from a consultant was sufficient.


If nobody had to turn off freshclam, why clamscan had to stop working?

In this thread I'm seeing a lot of people blaming the sysadmin. Is it
crowded by sysadmins who like to show they are much more competent than
their colleagues?

Why, because all the whiners on the list have gotten the ire up listen to people whine that their (making an analogy here) 10 year old car they have not changed the oil or air filter or spark plugs in since they bought from the dealer has not stopped working.

Why nobody from the ClamAV team likes to explain to *users* why they decided
to stop their own working clamscan, when there were tons of suitable
alternatives?


Because they used this solution to the problem which is their choice.
I personally do not let my ClamAV get more than 1 major revision behind. And before you go on as say that is because I run new hardware and distributions, I do not. My current OS is has not been supported by the vendor in a LONG time. What does this mean to me? It means that I AM responsible now for making sure all is well and requires more attention from me. If owners want "unmanaged" systems, they should use the money they are saving on management and upgrade the hardware / software every couple of years. Then the systems can remain happily unmanaged. If they want to have unmanaged systems AND no responsiblilty.... well I want to be a billionaire but I do not believe it is just going to happen......

Nobody here gave a serious rationale about it. The way "sysadmins" are
attacked here, seems to me that the 0.96 case has nothing to do with open
software, but instead with marketing.

So please, the genius in the management who came out with this smart idea may please came out and explain to us the why? Many people already know the
when...

Giampaolo

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