Greetings folks,

This is a reply to a thread started way back in April of 2008 (when  
it used to have the unfortunate subject line "Non-Windoze Viruses").

Concerning the controversy about whether Clamav has definitions for  
Mac OS X malware, I managed to find the answer is YES, but only sort of.

I has been remarkably hard to find what malware are in Clamav's  
Definitions List. Persistent pounding of the net provided me with the  
answer, which was embedded in the earlier thread. You can to do a  
search for what you want here:

http://clamav-du.securesites.net/cgi-bin/clamgrok

At last having a way to search for Mac malware I put in the name of  
the Trojan discovered last week, officially called "OSX.Lamzev.A",  
aka "OSX.TrojanKit.Malez" by Intego. It's not there. Clamav has not  
caught up with it, presumably because no one has provided them with a  
definition for it yet. This most likely is because Clamav is not a  
member of the group of commercial Mac anti-malware providers who  
share definitions as new malware is discovered. This is extremely  
unfortunate. But it gets worse.

I did find one and only one of the current three Mac malware in the  
database. That malware is known officially as Trojan OSX.RSPlug. The  
Clamav definitions database mistakenly calls it OSX.DNSChanger. I  
have to assume that this definition is only for the 'A' variant of  
this Trojan. We are currently up to the 'E' variant. My guess is that  
variants 'B' through 'E' are NOT detected by Clamav. The original 'A'  
variant was discovered in September 2007. If my assumption is  
correct, this puts Clamav over a year out of date regarding Mac malware.

What then is the benefit of Clamav on the Mac platform? During the  
period of proof-of-concept only Mac malware, Clamav was a free, up-to- 
date and courteous way to prevent the sharing of Windows malware from  
Macs to Windows users. With the appearance of Trojan OSX.RSPlug.A it  
was hoped that Clamav could be a free and up-to-date method of  
removing all Mac malware as well. Apparently this is not the case so  
far.

I am going to write directly to the folks in development to discuss  
the possibility of obtaining and providing to them up-to-date Mac  
malware definitions. I personally have no access to any Mac malware.  
I may know someone who does and I will write to him as well for  
advice. I'd like to help get the ball rolling.

:-Derek


PS:
1) I also found definitions for harmless proof-of-concept Mac malware:
Trojan.Leap.A, aka OompaLoompa
Trojan.Apple.Amphimix.A
2) Also missing from Clamav Definitions:
OSX.Trojan.PokerStealer



> [Clamav-users] Re. Non-Windoze Viruses
> sydz
> Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:14:30 -0700
> Seemingly, it may not be directly related to this forum but the  
> debate going
> on in tidbits should be of interest to posters here who by the look  
> of it
> are in the thick of it all and probably experts in the field. They  
> should
> look especially at item 23 by Randy B Singer of March 31, 2008.
>
> . . .
>
> As a result no one appears to be
> consistently adding new definitions for Mac malware to ClamAV's
> database.
>
>
> You can search the ClamAV database here:
> http://clamav-du.securesites.net/cgi-bin/clamgrok
> As a test, do a search for, for instance, for "Macintosh" . . .
> and see if anything shows up. (Nothing will.)
> What this means is that ClamXav doesn't look for much in the way of
> Macintosh-specific malware.
>
> . . .
>
> I fear that ClamXav lulls many Mac users into thinking that they are
> protected from all Mac malware, when they aren't. It isn't even
> clear that, if a very malicious and highly infectious Mac virus were
> to suddenly appear on the scene, that there is anyone who would be
> adding a definition for it to the ClamAV database.
>
> . . .
>
> ClamXav has the potential for filling the niche once
> occupied by Disinfectant. But until folks in the Mac community get
> behind it, it is sort of a paper tiger.]
>
> The whole discussion can be read at [incorrect URL provided]


The TidBITS discussion thread "Should Mac Users Run Antivirus  
Software?" can be found here:

http://emperor.tidbits.com/webx?230@@.3cbfbb6d



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:-Derek Currie
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