Quoting John Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Tilman Schmidt wrote:
>
>> So why am I dissecting that list like this? Just to show that blocking
>> or not blocking certain unusal characters in mail addresses is indeed a
>> policy decision which should not be forced by a piece of software, but at
>> most offered as a configurable option.
>
> Absolutely agree.

I disagree in this case (read on).

> It is not ClamAV's place to make policy decisions for
> me.

And ClamAV does not.  The milter is.  And the milter is designed to
work with sendmail.  And if leaving this enabled by default produces
an exploitable sendmail, then it is wrong.

I'm not saying it can't be configurable, but whether it is or not, it
must be disabled by default, IIF it is known to make sendmail or the
milter itself exploitable.

> It is ClamAV's place to match email messages to signatures.

Yes, but this is _not_ the function of the milter, it is the function
of ClamAV, and ClamAV is not the thing causing the issue, the milter is.

> It is
> up to me what to do with messages that match signatures.

Correct, and not of any concern to the actual discussion, despite the
fact that some people believe it is.

> At most, it
> should offer me policy options, but only _options_.

You would rather it allows you to become exploitable?  I wouldn't...

IMHO, the proper thing to do is to document this in the milter docs.
Whether it becomes a configurable option or not, it should certainly
be documented that the default is to block such addresses.

BUT, the point of my email is ClamAV is an anti-virus program,  its jobs
is to match patterns and report the match. clamav-milter is a separate
program, a milter for sendmail.  A milter is by definition a filter.  It's
job IS to filter (see: https://www.sendmail.org/milter/), even though many
people use them in a non-filtering way...  Don't confuse the two programs,
or their functions.

It would be irresponsible for a milter to knowingly allow a security hole
by default.  Protecting against such a hole is the only reasonable thing
to do.  How to best protect that hole is still a subject of debate.

-- 
Eric Rostetter
The Department of Physics
The University of Texas at Austin

Go Longhorns!
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