On Nov 10, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Gary V wrote:
Hmm, I wonder how many of the people who responded in one way or
another is actually familiar with the package in question. I
have been using Linux for a couple years now and have installed
thousands of packages. In general, I have not had any problems
navigating the package after it has been installed. Sure
packages need configuration. Sure, time is well spent figuring
out how to configure them. I would have been happy to use the
package in question rather than compile from source, but after
spending 30 minutes trying to get into the mindset of the
packager so I could actually get clamav to function, I said f***
it.
See, you do that much effort, but then the OP said he just hacks
the word "example" out of the config file and runs the app as
root. That means he took what, five minutes of effort?
The conf for ClamAV is rather well documented from my experiences
with it. The packages may have altered the defaults or where the
files are located, but once it's in place, it's not normally that
hard to get working. The hard part is integrating with other
daemons and scanners. How do you expect THAT to be simplified
for everyone and all situations?
Yes, unlike the OP, I was willing to spend the time, but like the
OP I wish I could have simply installed it and had it functioning
(at least to the point I could then tweak it). This particular
package appears to me it *is* trying to figure out and mold itself
to environments like "CLAMAV for POSTFIX filtered through AMAVISD-
NEW using SPAMASSASSIN" which in fact was my case, but somehow
broke itself in the process of figuring this out. Your experience
may differ. Heck, my experience may differ if I try to install the
aforementioned packages in a different sequence, but I'm not sure
my experience should differ. I would rather it simply put stuff in
reasonably predictable places, then left it up to me to finish the
configuration (if needed). The complexity of the package left me
wanting something I could at least predict.
The only way to solve this problem is to find someone willing to set
up a Linux VMWare image of a turnkey mail server for people who can't
figure out how to fulfill their sysadmin duties.
Then you can answer the questions of how to set up VMWare Player or
VMWare server.
-Bart
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