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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Peterson
> Sent: vrijdag 10 november 2006 2:28
> To: clamav-users@lists.clamav.net
> Subject: Re: [Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An 
> appeal to package rs
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> If one cannot do what is needed to install and maintain a product
> one should hire it out or find another product.


In general, there's an attitude prevalent in the UNIX world, like: "If you
cannot do this-or-that, then get your whiney ass back to Windoze." As is
the attitude of others to eagerly jump in with the grandstanding, so as to
associate themselves with the "real" UNIX folks.

Is that the case here, though? I think not. Rude as it may sound (and is
sometimes really worded that way, too), there's truly not a way to get
around having a minimal familiarity with installing stuff. For instance,
when I was upgrading to an earlier version of clamav, sigtool appeared to
need a newer version of the libgmp math library. Then you just need to do
that. It's a bit of work. But what's the alternative? Ask sigtool not to
use it? It needs it; so, if you want it, install it. Period. And when it
said that curl was still compiled against an earlier version of openssl,
and might conflict, then too, you just need to do what an admin does: his
job. :)

Getting back to my opening paragraph, I have on occasion noticed that
requests for easier installation are met with somewhat crabby answers
here. But the reality remains that you're all admins: it's no more
unreasonable to ask of a cobbler that he knows how to mend shoes, then it
is to ask of an admin that his knowledge of installing packages extend
beyond just "point-and-click". Not that I never asked a question here; but
I think there's a difference between asking a normal question, and
cherishing one's ignorance.

- Mark



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