-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jim Maul wrote: > > Are they really no package maintainers on this list? I find that > hard to believe. Is it really necessary to punish someone for > thinking that maybe, just maybe, a message about clamav packages on > the clamav-users list might actually get seen by some packagers > themselves? > > Yes, there are; but, most are looking here for updates, issues, etc. that may make thing easier for supporting the users of the packages. All package maintainers also have their own email addresses. Most are willing to take suggestions. Some even make changes. But, asking this community outright for a change like this to take place at ClamAV is difficult to manage, and misplaced.
When you first install ClamAV (even from source), you have to make changes to the configuration. This I found out myself after a few days of ClamAV not working... my first time. Some package maintainers do make this easier and make a few changes themselves to get things working; but, then the users may have an inadequate configuration for their use and not know any better. > > Of course. Im not saying i completely agree with everything the OP > wrote. Im simply saying that i believe people misinterpreted what > he was ultimately trying to say, and then insulted him because of > it. > He insulted himself first with the very misdirected subject to the email. "[Clamav-users] Cherishing my ignorance - An appeal to packagers: <QUOTE> > > I WANT to know NOTHING about ClamAV, I wish to remain ignorant. I > even trust the folks who produce RPMs to come up with reasonable > defaults for file locations, max sizes, etc. etc. etc. As _IS_ the > case with just about every other install. </QUOTE> He clearly states he wants to know NOTHING about the setup of ClamAV. This is not the tact to take when installing a package like this. How it is configured depends heavily on how you want to use it. You have to learn and overcome your ignorance to accomplish this. His email has no basis in reality as far as anyone can tell. > WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! > > Never will be fixed. I'm not spending another two days monkeying > with configuration, so this install of ClamAV stays, just ignore > the warning that it's OUTDATED until then next OS upgrade. So I'll > never see any of the new and great features added. Yes, it is a WARNING, if you read the whole warning it says NOT to PANIC. Actually, EVERYONE gets theses once in a while. Unless you have a script that checks every hour for the latest version you are bound to get a few of these in the logs. Everyone knows the drill.... download the source, compile, install, done. Usually that simple. Packages are usually similar, but the maintainer needs to do the work of compiling, testing, etc before releasing. > > This means that much of the developers work is wasted, because I > take the easiet way around an error, no clamav user, the hell with > it, freshclam runs as root. > > config file, just take out "Example" keep hacking until it stops > complaining. This is just BAD news. ClamAV should not be treated this way. Running as root aside, you have to READ the configuration file in its entirety to appreciate its usefulness. Nothing he said gave the problem clear details, suggestions or otherwise. Some questions he could have asked are: Why does ClamAV always complain about the configuration being bad after I just installed it on my machine? Why does ClamAV complain about being OUTDATED? How can I fix these problems? Where should I go to find out more about the configuration? What is the proper way to configure ClamAV for my system? Why can't freshclam write to the directory for the virus updates? How can I fix this? But, he didn't ASK a single question. - -James -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFVLLKkNLDmnu1kSkRAsUBAJ0Yi3gmtAdDW/PUfOg47zomTx6pAgCdHq6s YIItLVCd8stq3hLZ5+Erh60= =XBwq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Scanned by ClamAV - http://www.clamav.net _______________________________________________ http://lurker.clamav.net/list/clamav-users.html
