On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:43:11 -0700
Jim Redman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bowie,
> 
> Bowie Bailey wrote:
> > Hassle?
> > 
> > My not-so-automated update process looks like this:
> > 
> > wget (link to current clamav-XXX.tar.gz)
> > tar xzf clamav-XXX.tar.gz
> > cd clamav-XXX
> > configure --disable-zlib-vcheck
> > make
> > su
> > make install
> > service clamav restart
> > service freshclam restart
> 
> The obvious observation that while this might work for you it's not a 
> general solution, so now everyone needs to create a script.
> 
> If you use only one computer for a firewall and mail machine (as I do) 
> it is a generally considered a bad idea to have gcc on that system - a 
> missing compiler provides one more challenge once the system is hacked. 
As opposed to downloading an executable, running a script? If you've got access 
to the machine at a level that a compiler can be of use to you then the 
server's lost anyway. Do you offer webmail services? Then you've probably got 
php installed on your mail server...

You really do need to get out of the mindset that you don't actually need to 
know what you're doing to administer a server. It is *NOT* a trivial task, 
requires skills to support it, and years of experience to do it well.

Unfortunately, nobody thinks that way until they've seen the mess.

Sorry to take this off topic, but I've made my living as a freelance sysadmin 
since 1987 and I've seen the results time and time again.

Steve
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