On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 10:24 -0500, Bart Silverstrim wrote: > On Nov 7, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Jim Redman wrote: > > > Chris, > > > > > > > > Christopher X. Candreva wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Jim Redman wrote:
> > My observation is that of all the modern packages ClamAV fails to > > install and run successfully and securely without operator > > intervention. I think that this should be refined to reference > > Fedora packages and perhaps not all of them. I don't use Fedora - I use Mandriva. And my experience has been that the RPMS provided by Mandriva do allow you to run out of the box with very little tweaking. That is important to me - I manage about 20 linux servers, but my primary responsibility is 196 routers and firewalls. I'm not ignorant of the build process - I learned how to build SRPM's working with this package - I merely don't have the time to mess with it. So, I understand the sentiment. > > > > There are a number of reasons why I consider this a bad thing > > (other opinions have been expressed by others on the list). > > > > 4) (Altruism) It limits the adoption of ClamAV which in turn > > increase the number/penetration of viruses. > > Maybe the project doesn't WANT people who have problems with their > installs caused by willful ignorance...just a thought. I personally think that's a poor attitude. Clueless newbies are important too. I personally will dump a project that takes too long to get working at all. As long as I can see progress it will keep my interest. For example, the Hobbitmonitor project is buried deep on my todo list - There are about 15 "post release" patches that have to be individually applied in a certain order, and I have yet to get it right and have it compile. So I ignore it, and think "If I ever get about 4 hours of un-interrupted time, I'm going to tackle that beast". Of course, I don't have 4 hours, so it just gets deeper on the pile, and I never get my monitoring server built, and I never am able to contribute back to the project by helping other clueless newbies... -- Daniel J McDonald, CCIE # 2495, CISSP # 78281, CNX Austin Energy http://www.austinenergy.com _______________________________________________ http://lurker.clamav.net/list/clamav-users.html
