On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Todd Lyons wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 09:44:01PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >I do think that there is too much of a danger of denial of service attacks
> >or mail failure due to the milter crashing if you scan your mail during
> >the SMTP phase. I have regularly seen ISPs that can't accept mail because
> >of this problem.  I would (at the risk of being repetitive, as I have
> >argued this before) therefore like to point out the benefits of using a
> >manager for clamav such as Amavis (which I have never used) or MailScanner
> 
> Ok, so instead of:
>  sendmail -> clamav-milter -> clamd
> You propose:
>  sendmail -> amavis-milter -> clamscan
> 
> There's no advantage to amavis in this case, and it's actually worse if
> it's using clamscan since it has to load the virus database everytime.
> 
> I don't know how to configure amavis to *NOT* be run at SMTP phase.

Sorry for my mistake then.  In that case go with MailScanner which does
not get involved with the SMTP phase at all.
 
> >(which I do use and highly recommend).  This means that your MTA can 
> >cope much better with a large peak of incoming mail and then let the 
> >scanning manager take care of the virus scanning (as well as other actions 
> >such as dealing with spam, complying with user policies etc) off line.
> 
> Sending bogus DSN's is not a good netizen.

I am not sure I understand you.  Are you referring to the dsn=2.0.0 when 
we accept mail we are not going to deliver?  When I am dealing with an 
unwanted intruder in the middle of the night I don't exactly offer him the 
politenesses that I would a normal visitor.  The rules change.

Regards

Jim Holland
System Administrator
MANGO - Zimbabwe's non-profit e-mail service
Tel: (263-4)-334111/304471


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