On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 05:51:35PM +0200, Julian Mehnle wrote:
> Tomasz Kojm wrote:
> > Michel Arboi wrote:
> > > I was about to ask how I can help the project. I will not. I think that
> > > you don't need "bad" people.
> > > Good bye.
> > You're a troll. Go away!
> A tendency to ridicule people who even just remotely insinuate that not
> everything about ClamAV is perfect can certainly be observed on this
> mailing list. Don't you notice you are shooting yourself in the foot by
> alienating people who want to help the project?
> I voiced criticism, now call me a troll.
Not a troll. A concerned citizen who may be voting with his feelings,
instead of with an objective outlook, perhaps... :-)
All projects, and especially open source projects, require people to get
along. Criticism beyond a technical "I think something is wrong" or "here
is a patch to explain my point" can get close to an "I won't be getting
along with you, whether you accept me into your fold or not."
What is the value of having somebody on board who: 1) Can't taken
criticism directly back at them, and 2) Can't get along with the other
developers? Where is the perceived loss? In the open source community,
my limited view of people who fit into 1) and 2) are the people that
end up branching projects. Sometimes for the better, sure - but the
drama could be completely skipped over without any feelings being
hurt. Just branch already.
I was critical to the designers of clamav once or twice in the past.
There was a stupid piece of code (in partial defense of the
developers, it was an issue with action at a distance, making it
nearly impossible to see without careful analysis) that I submitted a
patch for. I believe I kept it polite, and accepted the doubt that the
developers offered me. I provided a patch, made my point, it was
included, and we all moved on. This is normal for open source projects
including larger ones like Mozilla and Linux.
Nobody is perfect. It would be a wonderful world to have developers who:
a) worked for free
b) had wonderful character and personalities, extremely forgiving and
patient
c) excellent designers
d) excellent coders (note that I separataed c and d)
If you found such a person good for you.
In the real world, though, most people are lucky to have one of the four
attributes listed above. If you get two. Excellent. Three? Wow.
Everybody should lower their drama setting. :-)
Cheers,
mark
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