On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
> I'd say leave it to the antispammers to hammer out, and to the people
> who focus on bayes filters...

In my case, if Clam has a chance to see the phishing e-mail, the anti-spam
tactics have already failed.  So, from my point of view, this is extra
protection which would not otherwise have been offered.

I'm not going to comment on the technical aspects of blocking these
messages, except to say that I've always found the ClamAV team to be
incredibly competent, and if they've chosen to take up this task, then
they probably think they can do it effectively.

> May be doing them a disservice if the signature mismatch a legit mail,
> though.

This is true of any pattern-matching system.

> Bolting more functions to a program, extending it beyond the original
> design, is a good way to start introducing problems and losing focus of
> the project.

I agree, but I think the basic usage of ClamAV is as a mailscanner, so
this is hardly a stretch.  For the same reason, I think your argument
about scanning Word docs for phishiness being a waste is not really that
persuasive.

Also, in the big picture here, it looks like they're only adding very
prevalent phishing schemes.  This doesn't seem to be a proposed anti-spam
solution or even a method for stamping out all phish traffic.  The
"slippery slope" argument is something to keep in mind, but it also
shouldn't prevent simple no-brainer solutions to easily solved problems
from being made available.

Jeffrey Moskot
System Administrator
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