2008/1/21, muzzol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> more than a year ago i was trying to impulse a scheduled packaging of
> cinelerra to include it in ubuntustudio (a derivated ubuntu oriented to
> multimedia stuff). there's no problem including this package because
> propietary codecs, you can produce videos with just free codecs. the
> problem was that cinelerra's source code is a mess, there's a lot of
> files with unidentified license. even worse, there's known propietary
> files (fonts) that must be substituted by free ones. as heroine warriors
> dont care about that there's a lot of work here, not just a "friendly
> fork" but deep changes. heroin warriors is in fact violating GPL
> license, but they just dont care.

Maybe they are, maybe they are not, I am not interested in nitpicking
on every small licensing issue, There are people who use cinelerra, or
else this list wouldn't exist, and there is ubuntu-studio who is not
willing to package it, for whatever reasons. So someone else has to do
it.
While I do not object to heavy changes, I do recognize that people
need a tool to work with in the mean time, even if that means that
some parts will stay unclear for a while.

> i dont think a "pacakge farm" could improve things. packaging is not the
> problem. lot of people (even me) can package.

I am not interested in people doing the packaging, I am interested in
machines doing the packaging, this is necessary to have continous
upgrades and continous testing, and a consistant cinelerra for as many
users as possible. I think that Developer A being able to reproduce
Bug Y from User B, which is possible when they have the same build and
revision IS actually valuable.

> to solve this situation should be some big changes in the way cinelerra
> CV works. non-friendly fork may sound to harsh, but i dont see any
> benefit of cooperating with people (HW) that hardly says thanks when
> uses code from CV developers.

HW wrote the big chunk of code, so they deserve some respect, on the
other hand, this is GPL, so what needs to be done can be done.


Cheers
-Richard

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