Mmmm.... almost falling asleep here.... but then there are some info which I may think may be of help. I'll go along with your mail. Btw, I am in Brazil, so it's nice to see someone from Argentina showing up. Let's change some material then, it would be nice.
2007/6/6, marquitux caballero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
does anyone had ever used ANY OTHER editing software ?
Yes. And still wondering what I am missing when I use cinelerra, gimp, blender and some other encoding softs and can reach about everything I want to do with them. Except for chosing subtitles from a dvd menu (instead of just from a remote), which I haven't figured out how, I think I do get very far with free-soft. But you'll have to believe me here though, since you haven't seen what I am up to. (...) CINELERRA NEEDS BADLY, a way to move clips on the track, single or by
selection box,
It does. Read along. someone asked this a couple of days ago, and someone answer
that the only way is this one, wich I used in th image, "if you want to move clips foward, of all timelines at the same time, copi and paste silences at the beggining, so the entire block of clips moves forward", of course, this ONLY works in the active tracks,
Yes, the thought behind the procedure is indeed a bit different from other softwares. But you'll get used to it. A shif+clicking on the red buttons (to activate the track) or a shift+alt directly on the track will help a lot. You'll do this with unbelievable speed once you get used to it. and you can see the fades are not moving, Right, this is may be bug of your version. Which then makes me come to the first reason why I decided to answer. The cv/cvs version is the community version. It needs manpower and manhelp to go on. The cv version then is sometimes more unstable than you may want - for instance, in case you have a deadline or in case you want desperately that a feature may be fixed, which seems to be your case. Without caps-locking, my advice to you is: use a stable version. As the months have passed, and the years, here in Brazil we mostly edit DV stuff, even though I do have a HDV cam. For DV stuff, you can find an extremely stable release in this link: http://estudiolivre.org/tiki-index.php?page=Tutorial+video+debian -> use the debian stable version. As you will see, it is a 2.0 release. You can use it on a Debian unstable also. I do a lot of propaganda of this version mainly because it works (I try to help the comunity in other matters/issues then, because my linux computer has not been on the web for about one year now and that is a crack when dealing with 2.1 versions). The only function that won't work, as far as I'm concerned, is the perspective effect - which, curiously, I have seen working when it is installed under an unstable debian... You can then use blender in case you're eager to do something using perspective. Fades move in this version. Effects move in this version. so here is a tip FIRST-EDIT-THEN-FADE, in alll this time, no one else but me
think this is a very STUPID way to EDIT CLIPS (non profesional, unaccurate, in sync terms, unconfortable, dangerous to the edited timeline), no one has a solution in mind? how many time must cinelerra wait to reach the 1997 Adobe Premiere 4.0 in terms of usability? come on people, this is basic stuff!!!
People may have thought about that before you had this idea; as you said, this is a basic feature. cinelerra has a great future, but cannot afford this thingies, in this way
has no present. PLEEEASE, I have said in the past that many features MUST BE in this GREAT TOOL, but THE BASIC move clips (and fades included, and efects included) without leaving the efect behind, or de-syncronization of the clips on more than 12 tracks, is DANGEROUS to anyone (like me) that pretends to achieve a profesional editing. PLEASE, don´t take this in the wrong way, I LOVE cinelerra, but MUST BE PRO. try to move the clips on this project: http://www.freewebs.com/anubis4d/cinelerra/cinelerra.programa.png
This is the second reason for my writing. Nice shot of a complex timeline. It seems you're using cinelerra for subtitling. First of all, the fonts: take a look at the manual and see how you can install some other fonts, it'll make a difference. Then, find some free fonts on the net and use them, they will look way more readable than this one you're using. Now, about the act of subtitling, you'll do it way more easily if you write the subtitles on a sheet and then use something such as Jubler to sync it. It will do a very very professional sync job, and it's way easy to use. Also, you won't have the subtitles on the video, but on a separate stream when you transfer your video to a dvd (on the mpeg2). That means you can have spanish, portuguese and english subtitles for your video without having the supernatural trouble of re-doing them on cinelerra and recording three separate copies of the same video. Even in case you don't dvd-it, most players will recognize an .srt file to play along with the video. I run the risk that you already know all this, but I thought it was better to speak than just watching and thinking "oh, this process might be easier". in cinelerra, is dangerous, and shouldn´t be.
and why have 2 tracks for STEREO clips? PEOPLE, is only 1 CLIP, why separate those? look EDIUS, or premiere.
If you want to go pro, then stereo for sound is your minimum, right? Sound can make up to 70%-75% of your video on most cases, unless you really really know what editing moving images is about and care about that, which doesn't seem to happen a lot, unfortunately... Sometimes people won't even pay attention to that - and stereo will be taken for a mono sound-font being reproduced on two different speakers. marquitux.
www.mdpsistemas.com.ar
Bonita grúa. Quisiera yo tener algo así para grabar... Me haría diferencia en una serie de cosas... rock on, flavio
