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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 06:10:09 +0200
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Today's Topics:
1. ANNOUNCE: anonymous pushable git repository for cinelerra (Christian
Thaeter)
2. Re: cinlerra install (Valentina Messeri)
3. SVN Commit History (rafael2k)
4. Re: SVN Commit History (Christian Thaeter)
5. Still Pictures not exactly in the manual (Randolph)
6. Re: Still Pictures not exactly in the manual
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7. Two camera editing method - howto (Jeff Gerritsen)
8. Re: Two camera editing method - howto (Stefan de Konink)
9. Re: Two camera editing method - howto (Timothy Baldridge)
10. Re: Two camera editing method - howto ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
11. A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV (Terje J. Hanssen)
12. Re: A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV (Terje J. Hanssen)
13. Re: [CVS] SVN Commit History (Pierre Marc Dumuid)
14. most of the php files are all static! (Pierre Marc Dumuid)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:11:23 +0200
From: Christian Thaeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CinCVS] ANNOUNCE: anonymous pushable git repository for cinelerra
Reply-To: [email protected]
It happens sometimes that people send new patches/bufixes to this ML
which eventually might get forgotten. To offer a chance that such things
are picked easily up somewhere. I created a 'mob' repository on my
server where anyone can push patches anonymously.
Little HowTo:
# first clone the repository
# (use the --reference option when you already have any other
# git clone of a cinelerra repo)
git clone git://git.pipapo.org/cinelerra/mob my_cinelerra
cd my_cinelerra
# then create a branch for your work
git checkout -b yourbranchname
# work and commit
..hack..hack..hack
git commit ...
# send it to my server, maybe with some branch description,
# see the git-push manpage
git push --all
IMPORTANT:
Do not trust the code in this repository, anyone could add potentially
dangerous code, review every foreign commit before run anything
(autogen.sh, ./configure).
I'd suggest to use gpg signed tags when you reviewd some state and trust
it (man gpg-tag). Such tags then sign the state and all its history.
Further I don't make any rules how this might be used, feel free to
acknowledge with other people to make this repository useful. The only
thing I will do is regulary or automatically rebasing the master branch
on the ongoing SVN synced repository, I'll tag the tree before doing so,
but any conflicts occuring during this rebase will be thrown out of the
master branch (they are still reachable from the tag) but contributors
would need to resolve conflicts and reapply them on the master branch
again if they didn't worked in topic branches.
If you have any questions about this, feel free to contact me via mail
or on IRC.
About mob software:
http://www.dreamsongs.com/MobSoftware.html
Have Fun
Christian
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 19:56:28 +0200
From: Valentina Messeri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CinCVS] cinlerra install
Reply-To: [email protected]
hi douglas,
i compiled cinelerra on ubuntustudio and made this packaging:
deb http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntuopengl/ ./
should works with opengl, if nvidia and opengl stuff are working ok
ciao!
Vale
> Christian Thaeter wrote:
>> Douglas Pollard wrote:
>>
>>> I have not been able to get cinelerra to install in ubuntu studios
i386
>>> with synaptic. click applications, sound video, shows an icon for it
>>> but it won't open. And it shows as installed in synaptic. In
add/remove
>>> it does not show up as installed?
>>> Has anyone been able to install this way. =20
>>> doug
>>>
>>
>> The AMD package for feisty is known to be broken (aborts with "Illegal
>> Instruction"), hopefully fixed soon. In the meantime you can install
the
>> generic (i686?) package or try to build cinelerra by yourself (needs a
>> lot build dependencies)
>>
>> =09Christian
>>
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> Christian, I have not attempted compiling yet and it apears that
> cinelerre would be a lrge undertaking, more than I care to tacked just
> now.
> I now have Ubuntu Studio installed are you saying take it out and
> try the regular Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 but in (i686) in it's place then
> install cinelerra (i686)?
> Yes I got an error message in Ubuntu studio terminal Illegal
> instruction. Core dumped.
> Doug
>
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Message: 3
From: rafael2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 06:46:08 -0300
Subject: [CinCVS] SVN Commit History
Reply-To: [email protected]
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hi all,
I think the svn commit history stopped at r1005...
bye!
rafael diniz
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:16:22 +0200
From: Christian Thaeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CinCVS] SVN Commit History
Reply-To: [email protected]
rafael2k wrote:
> hi all,
> I think the svn commit history stopped at r1005...
>
> bye!
> rafael diniz
>
Alternative:
http://www.pipapo.org/gitweb?p=cinelerra/svn;a=log
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 12:10:21 -0700
From: Randolph <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CinCVS] Still Pictures not exactly in the manual
Reply-To: [email protected]
I know the cinelerra manual speaks of using still pictures. The thing
is - I've learned that I can't use any old picture; it has to be from a
.png file. When I try renaming the extension from a .jpg file to .ifo,
then I try loading that file, cinelerra completely crashes - I mean
dissappears along with any work if I didn't save it. When I rename the
.png extension to .ifo, everything is fine. Then I can load, drag and
drop all I want. The manual mentions nothing of this.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:32:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Still Pictures not exactly in the manual
Reply-To: [email protected]
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Randolph wrote:
> .png extension to .ifo, everything is fine. Then I can load, drag and
> drop all I want. The manual mentions nothing of this.
Why are you renaming any kind of still image file to .ifo? That extension
is for DVD metadata; I would strongly suggest that you leave your .jpg
files named .jpg and your .png files named .png.
--
Matthew Skala
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Embrace and defend.
http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/
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Message: 7
From: Jeff Gerritsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:54:03 -0700
Subject: [CinCVS] Two camera editing method - howto
Reply-To: [email protected]
I have a two camera interview I'm trying to edit, one camera always on the
interviewer and one camera always on the interviewee. I want to edit both
files into one file where the interviewee says something, then cut to the
interviewer, then back to the interviewee when he says something, etc,
etc...
What is the best method to perform this in cinelerra?
For example, I have tried placing both video and audio tracks on the
timeline
(six tracks in total). The top video track is the interviewee with related
audio tracks. On the bottom is the interviewers video and audio tracks. I
use the audio tracks to align the timeline for sync purposes. When played
in the compositor window, timing between video and audio is way off and
within a few minuets of playing editing becomes impossible.
Any suggestions?
Background info:
Cinelerra version 2.1 CV
Build date: Tue Jan 9th, 11:15:03 EST 2007
Quicktime version: 2.2.0 external ffmpeg
Libmpeg3 version 1.7.0
Thanks,
Jeff Gerritsen
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:26:48 +0200
From: Stefan de Konink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Two camera editing method - howto
Reply-To: [email protected]
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Jeff Gerritsen schreef:
> I have a two camera interview I'm trying to edit, one camera always on
the
> interviewer and one camera always on the interviewee. I want to edit
both
> files into one file where the interviewee says something, then cut to
the
> interviewer, then back to the interviewee when he says something, etc,
etc...
>
> What is the best method to perform this in cinelerra?
>
> For example, I have tried placing both video and audio tracks on the
timeline
> (six tracks in total). The top video track is the interviewee with
related
> audio tracks. On the bottom is the interviewers video and audio tracks.
I
> use the audio tracks to align the timeline for sync purposes. When
played
> in the compositor window, timing between video and audio is way off and
> within a few minuets of playing editing becomes impossible.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Background info:
> Cinelerra version 2.1 CV
> Build date: Tue Jan 9th, 11:15:03 EST 2007
> Quicktime version: 2.2.0 external ffmpeg
> Libmpeg3 version 1.7.0
If you are absolutely frame synced with the audio. Just align them, and
make make tracks transparent on keyframes. Now you say you are not, and
you are @#$(&@#. Is the audio of the interviewee and interviewer
serperate? Then just make hard cuts: [question][answer] and add them on
one track, maybe two so you can make a nice face nods etc. ;)
Stefan
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:59:18 -0500
From: "Timothy Baldridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Two camera editing method - howto
Reply-To: [email protected]
Is this captured from a digital video camera? If so there may be a
problem with dropped frames during the capture or with the Cinelerra's
playback engine. Otherwise, you're in for fun. Basically, doing any
sort of multi-cam with analog cameras is a really bad idea, that is,
if you value your sanity.
Timothy
--
"They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly
without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:29:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CinCVS] Two camera editing method - howto
Reply-To: [email protected]
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007, Timothy Baldridge wrote:
> Is this captured from a digital video camera? If so there may be a
> problem with dropped frames during the capture or with the Cinelerra's
> playback engine. Otherwise, you're in for fun. Basically, doing any
> sort of multi-cam with analog cameras is a really bad idea, that is,
> if you value your sanity.
If each video track has its own synced audio track(s) and it's an
interview, you could probably just arm both the audio and video tracks,
and assemble your interview by cutting and pasting chunks from the
appropriate audio along with the video, instead of trying to sync the two
video tracks to each other and cut between them. You could even apply a
fast crossfade as the default audio transition to smooth out any clicks
created by the audio cutting. Syncing between the two video tracks is
only necessary if you really need to avoid cutting the audio.
--
Matthew Skala
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Embrace and defend.
http://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 00:25:05 +0200
From: "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CinCVS] A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV
Reply-To: [email protected]
I'm in touch with a fabricator planning an Anolog to MPEG-2/1394 unit
supporting also Linux. I've suggested to also include a HDMI IN on this
unit, making it even more useable.
When Sony V1/FX7 is operating, the EIP generates uncompressed 1440x1080i
with a color 4:2:2 color space. Digital 4:2:2 data are output via HDMI
port while 4:2:2 analog is output via component out.
Therefore I've suggested for this fabricator which isn't limited to
25Mbps datarate on DV tapes (DV25 or 1080i HDV) to preferably also make
use of a higher bitrate over 1394 and a better MPEG-2 encoding.
HDV applies the [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile, 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution,
4:2:0
color sampling and 25Mbps (out of max 60 Mbps defined) bitrate.
1) The better MPEG-2 profile for possibly HDMI IN I think of is
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the same 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution, and better 4:2:2
color sampling. Here is also Sony's XDCAM HD 4:2:2 with datarate 50
Mbps (out of max 80 Mbps defined).
2) A better MPEG-2 profile for Analog IN I think of is [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
720x480 or 720x576 resolution at 30fps/25fps, 4:2:2 color sampling at up
to 50Mbps (i.e Sony IMX using I-frame only)
Can Cinelerra use the MPEG-2 formats 1) and 2) above?
Which formats does Cinelerra really support?
Other viewpoints and suggestions?
Rgds,
Terje
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 00:30:15 +0200
From: "Terje J. Hanssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CinCVS] Re: A better MPEG-2 encoding than HDV
Reply-To: [email protected]
Unavoidable a typo, corrected 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED] below to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm in touch with a fabricator planning an Anolog to MPEG-2/1394 unit
supporting also Linux. I've suggested to also include a HDMI IN on this
unit, making it even more useable.
When Sony V1/FX7 is operating, the EIP generates uncompressed 1440x1080i
with a color 4:2:2 color space. Digital 4:2:2 data are output via HDMI
port while 4:2:2 analog is output via component out.
Therefore I've suggested for this fabricator which isn't limited to
25Mbps datarate on DV tapes (DV25 or 1080i HDV) to preferably also make
use of a higher bitrate over 1394 and a better MPEG-2 encoding.
HDV applies the [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile, 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution,
4:2:0
color sampling and 25Mbps (out of max 60 Mbps defined) bitrate.
1) The better MPEG-2 profile for possibly HDMI IN I think of is
[EMAIL PROTECTED], the same 1440x1080 or 1280x720 resolution, and better 4:2:2
color sampling. Here is also Sony's XDCAM HD 4:2:2 with datarate 50
Mbps (out of max 80 Mbps defined).
2) A better MPEG-2 profile for Analog IN I think of is [EMAIL PROTECTED] with
720x480 or 720x576 resolution at 30fps/25fps, 4:2:2 color sampling at up
to 50Mbps (i.e Sony IMX using I-frame only)
Can Cinelerra use the MPEG-2 formats 1) and 2) above?
Which formats does Cinelerra really support?
Other viewpoints and suggestions?
Rgds,
Terje
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:18:24 +0930
From: Pierre Marc Dumuid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CinCVS] Re: [CVS] SVN Commit History
Reply-To: [email protected]
Hi,
rafael2k wrote:
> hi all,
> I think the svn commit history stopped at r1005...
>
> bye!
> rafael diniz
FIXED.
I am still not on the mailing list (soo please reply to my address, not
the list address) but I browse archives from time to time and noticed
this message. I just logged onto skolelinux, and found that the php
file that I spent a little while writing has been overwritten with
static content!
Luckily, at one stage I had gitified that directory so have managed to
restore it.
j6t: BTW: the git binaries in ~j6t/bin/ aren't working anymore, I had to
scp the .git dir home to extract the file... if you recompile, I'd be
most appreciative..
ta,
Pierre
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:35:36 +0930
From: Pierre Marc Dumuid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [CinCVS] most of the php files are all static!
Reply-To: [email protected]
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone know's why (a number of) the php files are all
static at the website?
Some time ago I moved the html files to php files, and moved the
sidemenu index to a single php file that was included (so editing of the
side menu only needed to be performed once.) For some reason this has
been undone?
Pierre
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