On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 7:48 AM Elias Abacioglu <elias.abacio...@deltaprojects.com> wrote: > > If it's attachments causing this, perhaps forbid attachments? Force people to > use pastebin / imgur type of services? > > /E > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 1:33 PM Martin Palma <mar...@palma.bz> wrote: >> >> Same here also on Gmail with G Suite. >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:31 AM Paul Emmerich <paul.emmer...@croit.io> wrote: >> > >> > I'm also seeing this once every few months or so on Gmail with G Suite. >> > >> > Paul >> > Am So., 7. Okt. 2018 um 08:18 Uhr schrieb Joshua Chen >> > <csc...@asiaa.sinica.edu.tw>: >> > > >> > > I also got removed once, got another warning once (need to re-enable). >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > Joshua >> > > >> > > >> > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:38 AM Svante Karlsson <svante.karls...@csi.se> >> > > wrote: >> > >> >> > >> I'm also getting removed but not only from ceph. I subscribe >> > >> d...@kafka.apache.org list and the same thing happens there. >> > >> >> > >> Den lör 6 okt. 2018 kl 23:24 skrev Jeff Smith <j...@unbiasedgeek.com>: >> > >>> >> > >>> I have been removed twice. >> > >>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 7:07 AM Elias Abacioglu >> > >>> <elias.abacio...@deltaprojects.com> wrote: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Hi, >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I'm bumping this old thread cause it's getting annoying. My >> > >>> > membership get disabled twice a month. >> > >>> > Between my two Gmail accounts I'm in more than 25 mailing lists and >> > >>> > I see this behavior only here. Why is only ceph-users only affected? >> > >>> > Maybe Christian was on to something, is this intentional? >> > >>> > Reality is that there is a lot of ceph-users with Gmail accounts, >> > >>> > perhaps it wouldn't be so bad to actually trying to figure this one >> > >>> > out? >> > >>> > >> > >>> > So can the maintainers of this list please investigate what actually >> > >>> > gets bounced? Look at my address if you want. >> > >>> > I got disabled 20181006, 20180927, 20180916, 20180725, 20180718 most >> > >>> > recently. >> > >>> > Please help! >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Thanks, >> > >>> > Elias >> > >>> > >> > >>> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:41 AM Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com> >> > >>> > wrote: >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Most mails to this ML score low or negatively with SpamAssassin, >> > >>> >> however >> > >>> >> once in a while (this is a recent one) we get relatively high >> > >>> >> scores. >> > >>> >> Note that the forged bits are false positives, but the SA is up to >> > >>> >> date and >> > >>> >> google will have similar checks: >> > >>> >> --- >> > >>> >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.9 required=10.0 tests=BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK, >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, >> > >>> >> RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,RDNS_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no >> > >>> >> autolearn=no >> > >>> >> --- >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Between attachment mails and some of these and you're well on your >> > >>> >> way out. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> The default mailman settings and logic require 5 bounces to trigger >> > >>> >> unsubscription and 7 days of NO bounces to reset the counter. >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> Christian >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:23:25 +0900 Christian Balzer wrote: >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:15:22 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote: >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > > Thanks Christian, >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > You're no doubt on the right track, but I'd really like to >> > >>> >> > > figure out >> > >>> >> > > what it is at my end - I'm unlikely to be the only person >> > >>> >> > > subscribed >> > >>> >> > > to ceph-users via a gmail account. >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > Re. attachments, I'm surprised mailman would be allowing them >> > >>> >> > > in the >> > >>> >> > > first place, and even so gmail's attachment requirements are >> > >>> >> > > less >> > >>> >> > > strict than most corporate email setups (those that don't >> > >>> >> > > already use >> > >>> >> > > a cloud provider). >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > Mailman doesn't do anything with this by default AFAIK, but see >> > >>> >> > below. >> > >>> >> > Strict is fine if you're in control, corporate mail can be hell, >> > >>> >> > doubly so >> > >>> >> > if on M$ cloud. >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > > This started happening earlier in the year after I turned off >> > >>> >> > > digest >> > >>> >> > > mode. I also have a paid google domain, maybe I'll try setting >> > >>> >> > > delivery to that address and seeing if anything changes... >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > Don't think google domain is handled differently, but what do I >> > >>> >> > know. >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Though the digest bit confirms my suspicion about attachments: >> > >>> >> > --- >> > >>> >> > When a subscriber chooses to receive plain text daily “digests” >> > >>> >> > of list >> > >>> >> > messages, Mailman sends the digest messages without any original >> > >>> >> > attachments (in Mailman lingo, it “scrubs” the messages of >> > >>> >> > attachments). >> > >>> >> > However, Mailman also includes links to the original attachments >> > >>> >> > that the >> > >>> >> > recipient can click on. >> > >>> >> > --- >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > Christian >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > > Cheers, >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > On 16 October 2017 at 13:54, Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com> >> > >>> >> > > wrote: >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > Hello, >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > You're on gmail. >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > Aside from various potential false positives with regards to >> > >>> >> > > > spam my bet >> > >>> >> > > > is that gmail's known dislike for attachments is the cause of >> > >>> >> > > > these >> > >>> >> > > > bounces and that setting is beyond your control. >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > Because Google knows best[tm]. >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > Christian >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:50:43 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote: >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > >> Hi all, >> > >>> >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> This is a mailing-list admin issue - I keep being >> > >>> >> > > >> unsubscribed from >> > >>> >> > > >> ceph-users with the message: >> > >>> >> > > >> "Your membership in the mailing list ceph-users has been >> > >>> >> > > >> disabled due >> > >>> >> > > >> to excessive bounces..." >> > >>> >> > > >> This seems to be happening on roughly a monthly basis. >> > >>> >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> Thing is I have no idea what the bounce is or where it is >> > >>> >> > > >> coming from. >> > >>> >> > > >> I've tried emailing ceph-users-ow...@lists.ceph.com and the >> > >>> >> > > >> contact >> > >>> >> > > >> listed in Mailman (l...@redhat.com) to get more info but >> > >>> >> > > >> haven't >> > >>> >> > > >> received any response despite several attempts. >> > >>> >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > >> Help! >> > >>> >> > > >> >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > >> > >>> >> > > > -- >> > >>> >> > > > Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer >> > >>> >> > > > ch...@gol.com Rakuten Communications >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> -- >> > >>> >> Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer >> > >>> >> ch...@gol.com Rakuten Communications >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> >> ceph-users mailing list >> > >>> >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> > >>> >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > >>> > >> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>> > ceph-users mailing list >> > >>> > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> > >>> > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> ceph-users mailing list >> > >>> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> > >>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> ceph-users mailing list >> > >> ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> > >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > ceph-users mailing list >> > > ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >> > > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Paul Emmerich >> > >> > Looking for help with your Ceph cluster? 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