Same here also on Gmail with G Suite.
On Mon, Oct 8, 2018 at 12:31 AM Paul Emmerich <paul.emmer...@croit.io> wrote:
>
> I'm also seeing this once every few months or so on Gmail with G Suite.
>
> Paul
> Am So., 7. Okt. 2018 um 08:18 Uhr schrieb Joshua Chen
> <csc...@asiaa.sinica.edu.tw>:
> >
> > I also got removed once, got another warning once (need to re-enable).
> >
> > Cheers
> > Joshua
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 7, 2018 at 5:38 AM Svante Karlsson <svante.karls...@csi.se>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm also getting removed but not only from ceph. I subscribe
> >> d...@kafka.apache.org list and the same thing happens there.
> >>
> >> Den lör 6 okt. 2018 kl 23:24 skrev Jeff Smith <j...@unbiasedgeek.com>:
> >>>
> >>> I have been removed twice.
> >>> On Sat, Oct 6, 2018 at 7:07 AM Elias Abacioglu
> >>> <elias.abacio...@deltaprojects.com> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > I'm bumping this old thread cause it's getting annoying. My membership
> >>> > get disabled twice a month.
> >>> > Between my two Gmail accounts I'm in more than 25 mailing lists and I
> >>> > see this behavior only here. Why is only ceph-users only affected?
> >>> > Maybe Christian was on to something, is this intentional?
> >>> > Reality is that there is a lot of ceph-users with Gmail accounts,
> >>> > perhaps it wouldn't be so bad to actually trying to figure this one out?
> >>> >
> >>> > So can the maintainers of this list please investigate what actually
> >>> > gets bounced? Look at my address if you want.
> >>> > I got disabled 20181006, 20180927, 20180916, 20180725, 20180718 most
> >>> > recently.
> >>> > Please help!
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> > Elias
> >>> >
> >>> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:41 AM Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Most mails to this ML score low or negatively with SpamAssassin,
> >>> >> however
> >>> >> once in a while (this is a recent one) we get relatively high scores.
> >>> >> Note that the forged bits are false positives, but the SA is up to
> >>> >> date and
> >>> >> google will have similar checks:
> >>> >> ---
> >>> >> X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.9 required=10.0 tests=BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_MOSTLY,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,
> >>> >> RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,RDNS_NONE,T_DKIM_INVALID shortcircuit=no
> >>> >> autolearn=no
> >>> >> ---
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Between attachment mails and some of these and you're well on your way
> >>> >> out.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The default mailman settings and logic require 5 bounces to trigger
> >>> >> unsubscription and 7 days of NO bounces to reset the counter.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Christian
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 12:23:25 +0900 Christian Balzer wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 14:15:22 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > > Thanks Christian,
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > You're no doubt on the right track, but I'd really like to figure
> >>> >> > > out
> >>> >> > > what it is at my end - I'm unlikely to be the only person
> >>> >> > > subscribed
> >>> >> > > to ceph-users via a gmail account.
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > Re. attachments, I'm surprised mailman would be allowing them in
> >>> >> > > the
> >>> >> > > first place, and even so gmail's attachment requirements are less
> >>> >> > > strict than most corporate email setups (those that don't already
> >>> >> > > use
> >>> >> > > a cloud provider).
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > Mailman doesn't do anything with this by default AFAIK, but see
> >>> >> > below.
> >>> >> > Strict is fine if you're in control, corporate mail can be hell,
> >>> >> > doubly so
> >>> >> > if on M$ cloud.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > > This started happening earlier in the year after I turned off
> >>> >> > > digest
> >>> >> > > mode. I also have a paid google domain, maybe I'll try setting
> >>> >> > > delivery to that address and seeing if anything changes...
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > Don't think google domain is handled differently, but what do I know.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Though the digest bit confirms my suspicion about attachments:
> >>> >> > ---
> >>> >> > When a subscriber chooses to receive plain text daily “digests” of
> >>> >> > list
> >>> >> > messages, Mailman sends the digest messages without any original
> >>> >> > attachments (in Mailman lingo, it “scrubs” the messages of
> >>> >> > attachments).
> >>> >> > However, Mailman also includes links to the original attachments
> >>> >> > that the
> >>> >> > recipient can click on.
> >>> >> > ---
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Christian
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > > Cheers,
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > On 16 October 2017 at 13:54, Christian Balzer <ch...@gol.com>
> >>> >> > > wrote:
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > Hello,
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > You're on gmail.
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > Aside from various potential false positives with regards to
> >>> >> > > > spam my bet
> >>> >> > > > is that gmail's known dislike for attachments is the cause of
> >>> >> > > > these
> >>> >> > > > bounces and that setting is beyond your control.
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > Because Google knows best[tm].
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > Christian
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 13:50:43 +1100 Blair Bethwaite wrote:
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > >> Hi all,
> >>> >> > > >>
> >>> >> > > >> This is a mailing-list admin issue - I keep being unsubscribed
> >>> >> > > >> from
> >>> >> > > >> ceph-users with the message:
> >>> >> > > >> "Your membership in the mailing list ceph-users has been
> >>> >> > > >> disabled due
> >>> >> > > >> to excessive bounces..."
> >>> >> > > >> This seems to be happening on roughly a monthly basis.
> >>> >> > > >>
> >>> >> > > >> Thing is I have no idea what the bounce is or where it is
> >>> >> > > >> coming from.
> >>> >> > > >> I've tried emailing ceph-users-ow...@lists.ceph.com and the
> >>> >> > > >> contact
> >>> >> > > >> listed in Mailman (l...@redhat.com) to get more info but haven't
> >>> >> > > >> received any response despite several attempts.
> >>> >> > > >>
> >>> >> > > >> Help!
> >>> >> > > >>
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > --
> >>> >> > > > Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer
> >>> >> > > > ch...@gol.com Rakuten Communications
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer
> >>> >> ch...@gol.com Rakuten Communications
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