> On 30 Sep 2014, at 16:38, Mark Nelson <mark.nel...@inktank.com> wrote:
> 
> On 09/29/2014 03:58 AM, Dan Van Der Ster wrote:
>> Hi Emmanuel,
>> This is interesting, because we’ve had sales guys telling us that those 
>> Samsung drives are definitely the best for a Ceph journal O_o !
> 
> Our sales guys or Samsung sales guys?  :)  If it was ours, let me know.

Haha, neither.

Cheers, Dan


> 
>> The conventional wisdom has been to use the Intel DC S3700 because of its 
>> massive durability.
> 
> The S3700 is definitely one of the better drives on the market for Ceph 
> journals.  Some of the higher end PCIE SSDs have pretty high durability (and 
> performance) as well, but cost more (though you can save SAS bay space, so 
> it's a trade-off).
> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I’m curious what do the SMART counters say on your SSDs?… are they 
>> really failing due to worn out P/E cycles or is it something else?
>> 
>> Cheers, Dan
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Sep 2014, at 10:31, Emmanuel Lacour <elac...@easter-eggs.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear ceph users,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> we are managing ceph clusters since 1 year now. Our setup is typically
>>> made of Supermicro servers with OSD sata drives and journal on SSD.
>>> 
>>> Those SSD are all failing one after the other after one year :(
>>> 
>>> We used Samsung 850 pro (120Go) with two setup (small nodes with 2 ssd,
>>> 2 HD in 1U):
>>> 
>>> 1) raid 1 :( (bad idea, each SSD support all the OSDs journals writes :()
>>> 2) raid 1 for OS (nearly no writes) and dedicated partition for journals
>>>  (one per OSD)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm convinced that the second setup is better and we migrate old setup
>>> to this one.
>>> 
>>> Thought, statistics gives 60GB (option 2) to 100 GB (option 1) writes per 
>>> day on SSD on a not
>>> really over loaded cluster. Samsung claims to give 5 years warranty if
>>> under 40GB/day. Those numbers seems very low to me.
>>> 
>>> What are your experiences on this? What write volumes do you encounter,
>>> on wich SSD models, which setup and what MTBF?
>>> 
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