Can you show the overall cluster status (ceph -s)? If there's something else going on, it might block (some?) operations. And I'd scan the mgr logs, maybe in debug mode to see why it fails to operate properly.

Zitat von Holger Naundorf <naund...@rz.uni-kiel.de>:

On 27.06.25 14:16, Eugen Block wrote:


Zitat von Holger Naundorf <naund...@rz.uni-kiel.de>:

Hello,
title should of course be
 "orchestrator behaving strangely"

I did give a mgr restart another try (for the last OSD removal - which also did not work - I did already restart the mgr without effect)

there is no (immediate- i.e after ~10min) effect now as well - or should I reissue the OSD rm command as well?

Is there something in the queue (ceph orch osd rm status)? Sometimes the queue clears after a mgr restart, so it might be necessary to restart the rm command as well.

There is just the one 'waiting for purge' osd in the queue:

root@aadm01:~# ceph orch osd rm status
OSD HOST STATE PGS REPLACE FORCE ZAP DRAIN STARTED AT 406 acn07 done, waiting for purge 0 True False True 2025-06-25 09:18:07.650734+00:00

One more datapoint:

This is an OSD on a lage, rotational disk. The orchestrator is still working ok for a subet of OSDs on SSDs. We are just moving our SSD pool around and for this it was no problem using 'ceph orch osd rm ...' - with the difference that there we used --zap and not --replace (as we do not want to replace the disk, but to move the OSD away from this host).

Regards,
Holger




Regards,
Holger


On 27.06.25 12:26, Eugen Block wrote:
Hi,

have you retried it after restarting/failing the mgr?

ceph mgr fail

Quite often this (still) helps.

Zitat von Holger Naundorf <naund...@rz.uni-kiel.de>:

Hello,
we are running a ceph cluster at version:

ceph version 19.2.2 (0eceb0defba60152a8182f7bd87d164b639885b8) squid (stable)

and since a few weeks the orchestrator started to misbehave - up to now we could not identify any root cause, so I am fishing in the community to see if there are any hints.

Problems:

An OSD removal (for disk replacement) gets stuck in the 'purge' step:

ceph orch osd rm 406 --replace

root@aadm01:~# ceph orch osd rm status
OSD  HOST   STATE                    PGS  REPLACE  FORCE  ZAP DRAIN STARTED AT 406  acn07  done, waiting for purge    0  True     False  True 2025-06-25 09:18:07.650734+00:00

(now for more than 24h in this state)

At the same time the orchestrator is not restarting OSD daemons - i.e. an 'ceph orch daemon restart osd.xxx' claims its queuing uo the restart, but it never happens. Other services continue to be controlled correctly via 'ceph orch ...'

If anyone has an idea where to poke around or can match this to some known problem - I would appreciate any pointers.


Regards,
Holger

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