On 07/30/2018 10:29 PM, Matthew R. Trower wrote:
Chase via cdesktopenv-devel <cdesktopenv-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
writes:
The reason I chose opensp instead of sp is simply because when I tried
installing sp on Lubuntu, it gave me an error saying "Package sp has
no installation candidate", although it is in the debian repos, so I
don't know whats happening with that. I also picked it due to looking
at the *bsd and solaris repos, and most seem to have opensp, but not
sp itself.
On July 30, 2018 5:53 PM, Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> wrote:
Well, I'd like to hear from Chase as to whether that is actually the
case on Debian.
As I mentioned before, nsgmls exists on Ubuntu 16.04 after installing
the "sp" package.
At least on illumos/OpenSolaris, opensp contains onsgmls and nsgmls.
The latter is a link to the former. I don't think the opensp package
itself contains these links; I think it is a distribution "extra".
Debian 9 contains opensp, but not sp. There is no symlink from onsgmls
to nsgmls. I can't comment on BSD at this time.
I checked on ubuntu 16.04, it has both "sp" and "opensp". Installing
"opensp" does provide the onsgmls program. nsgmls comes from the "sp"
package, and is not a symlink to onsgmls.
I have confirmed that FreeBSD also has opensp in its ports collection --
I'm not sure about OpenBSD. So it does seem like opensp is the way to go.
I'm not really familiar with these programs, but it seems to me that
OpenSP is the continuation of SP (any expert is welcome to correct me).
As such, I'd say we should default to using that (and onsgmls), rather
than old SP. If people want/need to use old SP, they can always
override it in host.def.
That's the impression I got too, however if you go to the opensp
(OpenJade) SF page, it isn't updated very often, and there seems to be
no interaction with the developers.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/openjade/
There are 71 open tickets reports with no responses by any of the
developers that I could see in my skimming around. It does not seem
very actively developed, but there does not seem to be any alternative.
And of course, if we know about types of systems where that's necessary,
it could go into their system cf files.
Some links about SP and OpenSP
SP: http://www.jclark.com/sp/howtoget.htm
OpenSP: http://openjade.sourceforge.net/doc/index.htm
Version histories, which seem indicative of a transition.
SP: http://openjade.sourceforge.net/doc/new.htm
OpenSP: http://openjade.sourceforge.net/doc/NEWS
OpenJade in general
http://openjade.sourceforge.net/
I guess we should stick to onsgmls for now.
Chase: Did it actually work well? The help system, man pages, and
dtinfo stuff worked/looked ok?
--
Jon Trulson
"Fire all weapons and open a hailing frequency for my victory yodle."
- Zapp Brannigan
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