I am very much looking forward to seeing a new ksh in CDE

​Thank you for your time,

-Chase​

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐

On June 10, 2018 6:22 PM, Jon Trulson <j...@radscan.com> wrote:

> ​​
> 
> On 06/10/2018 12:53 PM, Marcin Cieslak wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 8 Jun 2018, Ulrich Wilkens wrote:
> > 
> > > On 06/10/18 03:29, Brent Busby wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Jon Trulson j...@radscan.com writes:
> > > > 
> > > > > On 06/09/2018 05:40 PM, Chase via cdesktopenv-devel wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > Also, requiring ksh to build is a bit of a fault point for many
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > But the first systems are starting to remove ksh93 package from their
> > > 
> > > official distribution.
> > > 
> > > I've seen it on NetBSD and Arch Linux. So it might become a problem
> > > 
> > > in future.
> > 
> > I took over the maintenance of ksh93 for FreeBSD and I have no intention
> > 
> > of dropping it, unless somebody knowing ksh93 internals wants to take over
> > 
> > of course. One reason I took it over was my interest in getting
> > 
> > newer ksh93 into CDE.
> 
> I would love to see this. :)
> 
> > There is a revived effort by RedHat maintainers and Kurtis Rader at
> > 
> > https://github.com/att/ast
> > 
> > They have switched the build system to Meson (it's fast now) and applied
> > 
> > some patches (some of them I am not sure are good), so right now
> > 
> > I am just cherry picking good stuff into my "unofficial" release.
> > 
> > The latest is here https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211164
> > 
> > -   you are welcome to test.
> > 
> > It should build mostly fine on FreeBSD 10.x, 11.x and -CURRENT.
> > 
> > It is not working on arm64 platform due to lack of sbrk() C library 
> > function.
> > 
> > Users of other OS's may just download my distfiles and try to build them by 
> > hand:
> > 
> > https://distfile.net/local-ports-distfiles/INIT.2014-12-24.tgz
> > 
> > https://distfile.net/local-ports-distfiles/ast-ksh.2018-05-20.tgz
> > 
> > The magic command to build it is
> > 
> >      ./bin/package make
> >     
> > 
> > ksh93 is embeddable, this means you can build four shared libraries
> > 
> > (sadly most packagers don't) and just use it any C program (just like tcl):
> > 
> > #include <shell.h>
> > 
> > #include <nval.h>
> > 
> > int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> > 
> > {
> > 
> > Namval_t *np;
> > 
> > Sfdouble_t res;
> > 
> >      Shell_t *shp = sh_init(argc, argv, 0);
> >      sh_trap(shp, "((xresult=$0*$1))", 0);
> >     
> >      np = nv_open("xresult", shp->var_tree, 0);
> >      res = nv_getnum(np);
> >      sfprintf(sfstderr,"%Lg\n", res);
> >      nv_close(np);
> >     
> >      return(0);
> >     
> > 
> > }
> > 
> > Here's BSDmakefile to build it:
> > 
> > PROG=embed
> > 
> > KSHDIST=${HOME}/sw/ast/arch/freebsd10.amd64
> > 
> > CFLAGS+=-I$(KSHDIST)/include/ast
> > 
> > LDFLAGS+=-L$(KSHDIST)/lib -Wl,-rpath=$(KSHDIST)/lib -last -lshell -ldll 
> > -lcmd
> > 
> > .include <bsd.prog.mk>
> > 
> > It seems that dtksh is just a couple of object files
> > 
> > that are linked with those 3 (or currently 4) shared libraries,
> > 
> > plus it uses ksh93.o files from the main distribution.
> 
> Yes, exactly. dtksh builds ksh93 (it's own version) and then adds some
> 
> stuff to become dtksh.
> 
> > As a minimum, it should be possible to upgrade ksh93 in the CDE tree
> > 
> > -   this could be done right now based on the above release.
> 
> I look forward to a patch! :) Seriously, this would be awesome.
> 
> > Long term it might possible to use ksh93 installed in the system
> > 
> > as the dependency, provided include files, libraries, and ksh93.o
> > 
> > will be provided.
> 
> And OS packagers maintain it...
> 
> -jon
> 
> > Marcin
> > 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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