On 05/05/2016 04:50 πμ, Jon Trulson wrote:
> On Wed, 4 May 2016, Antonis Tsolomitis wrote:
>
>>
>> It is not a problem to have something optional. The problem is that
>> font handling is so difficult.
>>
>> Moreover it is not that I want Comic Sans (as someone else wrote)
>> but look: you buy a quality font, say Lucida Grande (remember that 
>> Lucida
>> was always shipped with CDE at least on Solaris) and you can not use it.
>> And even if
>> you manage to use it, it will look ugly because the designers
>> have no reason to embed hinted bitmap fonts in modern fonts
>> as they did the old days. And all this should go together with utf-8
>> support.
>>
>> Anyway...,
>>
>
> For my own two cents, I agree.  Modern font handling and proper UTF8
> supoort would be a big win for CDE.
> -jon
>
> [...]
>

I am happy I am not alone in this :-)

I do not know about improvements from the developer point of view, but 
from the user point of view
I think some things must be clear:

1. Modern font handling with full unicode support (now based on old xorg 
mechanism)
2. A mixer with volume control docked in the panel
     (now one may use pavucontrol. This is also absolutely necessary 
because it is not trivial without some tool,
     such as pavucontrol, to
     select microphone for communications (eg Skype); modern hardware 
has typically two
     microphones, one next to camera and a mic-in)
3. An easy  way to easily select/modify/display keyboard state (now one 
may use XXkb).
4. An easy way to theme gtk2 and gtk3 apps to match CDE themes (this 
includes major apps such as
     firefox, thunderbird, LibreOffice, inkscape etc) (this can be extra 
independent code). Number 2 above
     can be partly bypassed if one manages to theme pavucontrol; but the 
docked volume control is needed.

Antonis.















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