Hi Antonis,

I think there was never anything wrong with X11 font support, until people
started asking for Comic Sans. You have to be careful what you include or
you'll end up with a huge behemoth that has hundreds of dependencies
because every beep needs to have its own library these days. In the end
people run out of names and name their library libcaca (which phenetically
mean libPoo in German btw). Back in the day Xfree built from source in
about three hours on a Pentium II. I built the latest XOrg on NetBSD last
week and it took a whooping eight hours,

Without git CDE and its dependencies still build in under two hours, even
on a low-range system, and I think that should stay that way. That is, if
you have Xorg already. I think the main selling point for CDE is its low
requirements in terms of resources. With a few moderate modernizations it
could carve out its own niche.

On 28 April 2016 at 21:47, Antonis Tsolomitis <antonis.tsolomi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> How about modern font support?
>
> Antonis.
>
>
>
> On 28/04/2016 09:09 μμ, Danilo Schöneberg wrote:
>
> Moin,
>
> There is one system left I'm checking out the build for - Linux From
> Scratch. I'm building it right now (the system. Not CDE yet).
>
> I have ten days of vacation coming up,  I was thinking about what to do.
> I'm completely useless at sitting around idly for more than two days. So I
> was thinking about some ideas:
>
> 1) A CDE-based Live-CD
> 2) researching integration of some modern technologies (like automount of
> devices, udev, sound systems)
> 3) "modernizing" some of the dt apps (mail, text editor, dtlogin)
> 4) code cleanup (warnings)
>
> What would be the preferred option from the team point of view? This also
> brings up another question. What is the long-term goal? Do we try to keep
> CDE running as it is or are there plans to actively develop it into a next
> generation? For instance, I would love to see some more applications
> developed (like a really good ftp client, image viewer, perhaps adding some
> HTML support to the mail client (either via XmHTML or maybe even webkit).
> All based on Motif of course. It has all a UI needs. It may look a bit
> dated, but I love it, much more than all the new-fangled stuff that blinks,
> beeps and dances, but gobbles up resources.
>
> One thing I noticed on my old Compaq nx8220, running NetBSD: CDE makes
> other DE's that were deliberately designed to be lightweight (LXDE, LXQT)
> look positively bloated and sluggish. It could really be an alternative on
> low-end systems.
>
> Cheers,
> Hippo
>
>
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