> On Aug 1, 2026, at 3:00 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> I dont' know.  I watched as Dave Gesswein ran them through his TU56.

Did he use read-all mode to read the raw tape structure?  Or is this something 
lower level still, without using a TC11 controller?

>  I was
> able to load the pdp8 and pdp11 tape
> images using simH, I have not
> yet tried the pdp10 tape image.  The TU56 is a universal drive and as I
> underatand it (barely), and if I understand correctly the tracks of 00's
> are ignored and/or are used to indicate what kind of system made them, 12,
> 16, or 18 bit. 

True.  I remember a DECtape manua, perhaps the TC11/TU56 technical manual, with 
an appendix that shows the PDP-n DECtapes for all n, and the matrix of 
interoperabiltiy.  So if you  have a PDP-4 and needed to read PDP-11 DECtapes, 
it would tell you whether that's possible.

DECtapes basically have a clock track, a "mark" track, and 3 data tracks, all 
of these replicated.  And controllers like the TC11 have a "read-all" mode 
where pretty much everything is extracted, I'm having some trouble finding out 
the precise details of how that deals with the block delimiters, block numbers, 
etc.

The one thing a TC11 can't handle is LINCtape, because its low level encoding 
is different.  I think the drive can handle it if you capture the waveforms, 
it's compatible at that level, but the controller even in read-all mode can't 
cope.

        paul

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