Why did those processors not catch on?
It seems to me that hardware people had a “if we build it, they will come” 
mentality and hoped other companies would adopt it and actually write software 
to make it useful. 
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> On Nov 16, 2024, at 17:38, Chuck Guzis via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> On 11/16/24 16:24, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> 
>> So, Intel went with the "quick fix" rather than the long-term good.
> 
> Okay, I vass dere and know what we were being told by Intel marketing in
> the late 70s.  The 8086 was not intended to be the eventual migration
> target for larger-scale applications.  Similar claims can be made for
> the 80186--it was mostly intended for embedded applications.
> 
> The thing that was supposed to be the architecture to hang one's hat on
> was the iAPX432.  Intel's "Clean Slate" which was a horrible flop.
> Another "clean slate" was the i860; my i860 reference manual has a
> statement by BillG saying that MS intended to develop for that platform.
> It seems that every time that Intel tries to do development from a
> tabula rasa, they get burned.  Witness Itanium/IA64.
> 
> The thing that saved Intel's bacon on several occasions was their
> liberal licensing.  Would we even have had the IBM 5150 if there weren't
> a pile of second sources for the 8088?  My early 5150 had an AMD CPU in it.
> 
> --Chuck
> 
> 

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