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-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 12:37 AM
To: Glen Slick via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
Cc: Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez <ce.murillosanc...@gmail.com>
Subject: [cctalk] Re: PDP-11 thingy. What is it?

Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024, 7:22 PM Carlos E Murillo-Sanchez via cctalk < 
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
>> Jonathan Chapman via cctalk wrote:
>>>> 1. I have read that the card and the drives were compatible with 
>>>> the
>> dec rx02 drives. Why would the CRDS even bother to redesign a card 
>> where DEC had perfectly good working ones? Anyone know if there is 
>> any value in keeping the FC-202 or just keep with the DEC cards?
>>> A lot of the third-party controllers could talk to Shugart-style 8"
>> floppy drives. They can also usually *format* the diskettes, which 
>> the
>> RX01/RX02 systems from DEC can't do -- you have to use preformatted media.
>> This isn't a *huge* deal since RX01 is just IBM 3740 and you can 
>> format it on CP/M boxes, with ImageDisk, etc. There's an XXDP utility 
>> to upconvert
>> RX01 media to RX02, which is M2FM and very few things can work with it.
>>> Apparently a lot of small shops kept a CP/M box just for the task, 
>>> the
>> Alspa ACI-2 I had was supposedly used like that.
>>>> 2. Any idea on that other card?
>> https://w2hx.com/?prefix=x/What-Is-It/PDP-11-Thing/Board1/
>>> Looks like a non-DEC Qniverter -- QBus to Unibus converter. If 
>>> that's
>> what it is, you'd plug your Unibus cable into that pair of connectors 
>> on top and run it to whatever Unibus device you were wanting to talk 
>> to, potentially another backplane full of Unibus stuff. Commonish 
>> upgrade on e.g. CNC machines that were originally controlled by a 
>> PDP-11/05 or something in one Unibus chassis, with another Unibus 
>> chassis full of machine-specific cards.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jonathan
>>> .
>>>
>> I spy two AM2901 4-bit slice ALUs, two N82S181 1024x8 PROMs, three
>> AM2911 microprogram sequencers, and an SN74150 3-to-8 line decoder. 
>> This thing is doing arithmetic.
>>
>> Carlos.
>
> That is not an unusual bit slice architecture for a drive controller.
>
> This Dilog DQ419 also has two AM2901 ALUs and three AM2911 sequencers, 
> and what appears to be six microcode PROMs.
>
> https://avitech.com.au/?page_id=847
How interesting, thanks! The knowledge in this list never ceases to amaze me.

Carlos.

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