On Sun, Sep 10, 2023, 4:12 PM Will Cooke via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
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> > On 09/10/2023 3:00 PM CDT Fred Cisin via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org>
> wrote:
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> > On Sun, 10 Sep 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> > > Now, let's talk about 2.8" and 3.25" drives; UK readers are certainly
> > > familiar with 3.0 inch CF drives used on Amstrads.
> > Amdek? sold a dual 3" drive in USA, marketed as external drives.
> > There were ads for it in one or more of the Coco magazines.
> >
> > And there were ads for it as external drives for Apple2!
> > Q: were those different electronics? OR did they include an FDC for
> > Apple2?
> >
> >
> > 3.25:
> > The three leading contenders for "Shirt pocket disks" were 3", 3.25", and
> > 3.5". There were many others, such as a 3.9" that IBM was rumored to be
> > planning.
> > But, for shirt pocket puspose, 3" seems the most promising.
> > There was extensive argument in the trade journals.
> > George Morrow said, "Why don't we get the clothing industry to make
> > shirt pockets 5.25 inch?"
> >
> > Dysan did not want such an extreme retooling, so they were pushing the
> > 3.25", which was basicaally a smaller 5.25", with a metal hub. They
> > reasoned that whichever size had the most software would end up being the
> > winner. So, Dysan set up an enormous software publishing venture. Before
> > there were any machines using 3.25", you could purchase most of the major
> > software packages on 3.25" disks! I ended up with a few drives and disks
> > from Micropro.
> >
> > But, then HP and Apple both went with 3.5".
> > When IBM went with 3.5" (PS/2, PC-DOS 3.20), the coffin was nailed shut.
> > Seequa Chameleon 325 seems to have been the only machine that made it to
> > market with 3.25" drives.
> >
> > Dysan had invested so much into their software publishing venture to
> > promote 3.25" that, when 3.25" died, they couldn't ever recover. R.I.P.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
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> I make an official motion that Fred write his own "Everything I Know About
> Floppy Disks" page / book /encyclopedia.
>
> I suspect that what is inside his head is the greatest collection of
> knowledge about floppies on the planet.
>
> Fred, you will be paid with great admiration and appreciation.  Sorry, all
> I can offer. :-)
>
> Anyone with me?
>

I am. I thought I was hot shit with what I knew about floppies. And for the
tiny sliver I needed for my Rainbow hacking, I kinda sorta knew enough.
This thread and all the others shows I know next to nothing.

Warner


> Will
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>
> If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and
> don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the
> endless immensity of the sea.
>
> Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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